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Spartygrad95
(@Spartygrad95)
Noble Member

I'm generally a pacifist but when is the drone strike going to be ordered on these tw@twaffles?

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/watch-oregon-militants-sit-silently-as-furious-residents-shame-them-for-ruining-their-community/

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Posted : January 20, 2016 11:26 pm
Alana33
(@Alana33)
Islander

I've been following this and have to agree.
Enough is enough.
Had they been Black, Indian, Muslim or Environmentalists, they'd have been dead or in jail weeks ago.
They want to turn the animal sanctuary and refuge into use for private interests to mine, log, hunt and ranch all the while being subsidized by our tax dollars.

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Posted : January 22, 2016 2:51 pm
Spartygrad95
(@Spartygrad95)
Noble Member

Since the main perpetrators are Mormons I'm waiting for the leaders on the right to call for a ban on Mormons.

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Posted : January 22, 2016 8:52 pm
Alana33
(@Alana33)
Islander

At last!

Bundy and others finally arrested.

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/1/26/1475627/-Ammon-Bundy-arrested-with-multiple-others-two-people-reportedly-shot?detail=email

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Posted : January 27, 2016 4:01 am
janeinstx
(@janeinstx)
Island Expert

One confirmed dead...

At last!

Bundy and others finally arrested.

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/1/26/1475627/-Ammon-Bundy-arrested-with-multiple-others-two-people-reportedly-shot?detail=email

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Posted : January 27, 2016 3:03 pm
Spartygrad95
(@Spartygrad95)
Noble Member

There are still yahoos hold up in the compound vowing to become martyrs. Sad. I hope they don't give them that wish. The anti government militia types have enough "heroes"

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Posted : January 27, 2016 3:15 pm
LiquidFluoride
(@LiquidFluoride)
Noble Member

There are still yahoos hold up in the compound vowing to become martyrs. Sad. I hope they don't give them that wish. The anti government militia types have enough "heroes"

so you basically have no clue about the situation, the 8th amendment violations or the land seizures by the BLM?

I guess you all support tossing out the double jeopardy laws & think that taking care of your property is an act of terrorism when you accidentally cross your own property line into "the woods".

do any of you actually have any idea about what this "stand off" is about?

Good to see you're all out there critically thinking....

28min break down:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1JzuQf4DMU

more if you care to, which you don't:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI9IlziWphY&feature=iv&src_vid=A1JzuQf4DMU&annotation_id=annotation_190221311

There was a [URL="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/abinazir/2011/06/15/what-are-chances-you-would-be-born/"]1: 400,000,000,000,000[/URL] chance of you being born: what have you done with your miraculous life today?

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Posted : January 27, 2016 7:59 pm
Spartygrad95
(@Spartygrad95)
Noble Member

I know the idea that the federal government can't own land is nonsense and Kleepe v. New Mexico is precedent.

I know these jokers get huge breaks grazing their cattle on BLM land compared to private land.

I know no one is forcing anyone to be a rancher.

I know these guys see themselves as fulfilling Mormon prophecy.

I know many a pair of magic underwear were soiled last night.

I know the two convicted of arson on federal land didn't ask for this. I also know their contract with BLM was voided by government because of constant violations and threats from this government mooches.

I know ALL the Bundy's suck off the government teet yet decry the same government.

I know the sovereign citizen movement has zero basis is law or fact.

I know Tarp Man Lavoy got what he wanted.

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Posted : January 27, 2016 8:18 pm
Alana33
(@Alana33)
Islander

Gotta agree.
Bunch of seditious, gun toting, delusional moochers.

As posted originally:
Enough is enough.
Had they been Black, Indian, Muslim or Environmentalists, they'd have been dead or in jail weeks ago.
They want to turn the animal sanctuary and refuge into use for private interests to mine, log, hunt and ranch all the while being subsidized by our tax dollars.

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Posted : January 28, 2016 2:17 am
JohnnyU
(@JohnnyU)
Reputable Member

There are still yahoos hold up in the compound vowing to become martyrs. Sad. I hope they don't give them that wish. The anti government militia types have enough "heroes"

Your attitude is sickening to me

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Posted : January 28, 2016 2:23 am
Spartygrad95
(@Spartygrad95)
Noble Member

There are still yahoos hold up in the compound vowing to become martyrs. Sad. I hope they don't give them that wish. The anti government militia types have enough "heroes"

Your attitude is sickening to me

I realize that. Because I want no one dead. Unlike you who thinks killing criminals in justified.

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Posted : January 28, 2016 8:38 am
JohnnyU
(@JohnnyU)
Reputable Member

I haven't voiced and opinion other than noting your fluid belief in the value of human life.

Can you remind me who posted the following: "when is the drone strike going to be ordered on these tw@twaffles?"

Interesting...

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Posted : January 28, 2016 11:56 am
LiquidFluoride
(@LiquidFluoride)
Noble Member

I know the idea that the federal government can't own land is nonsense and Kleepe v. New Mexico is precedent.

Really? Did you hear that on CNN?
cuz...

Kleppe v. New Mexico, the Court ruled that the Federal Wild Horse and Burro Act was a constitutional exercise of congressional power under the Property Clause – at least insofar as it was applied to a finding of trespass. The case prohibited the entering upon the public lands of the United States and removing wild burros under the New Mexico Estray Law.

Sounds to me that the case settled NOTHING about federal land ownership.

Read the federalist papers... the FEDERAL government is not suppose to really almost anything outside of DC.. that's supposed to be the states/people property.

I know these jokers get huge breaks grazing their cattle on BLM land compared to private land.

Private land?

Please show me these private lands you speak of... over 80% of the state is federally owned & SO MISS MANAGED that they have RAMPANT over population of Deer; constant thousand+ acer fires (due to mismanagement).

I know no one is forcing anyone to be a rancher.

No one is forcing you to have inaccurate opinions either... what's the relevance of this?

know these guys see themselves as fulfilling Mormon prophecy.

I know many a pair of magic underwear were soiled last night.

how do you "know" that? and how is that relevant?

know the two convicted of arson on federal land didn't ask for this. I also know their contract with BLM was voided by government because of constant violations and threats from this government mooches.

Not arson,, TERRORIST ARSON with a 5 year sentence.. they had already served their time, the previous judge had said that giving them the "mandatory minimum" of 5 years for an action that IMPROVED THE VALUE OF THE LAND (yes, back burns make land more valuable) would be in violation of the 8th amendment.

A later judge did exactly that.

I know ALL the Bundy's suck off the government teet yet decry the same government.

Huh? quit being so polarized.. life is not black and white, ever.

I know the sovereign citizen movement has zero basis is law or fact.

do you know what sovereign means? are you saying that our democracy is a farce and voting is pointless? (well I agree with you there...)

I know Tarp Man Lavoy got what he wanted.

he was either shot with his hands in the air, or shot while charging police. time will tell, however.. I seriously doubt he wanted to leave his 11 children and wife with out a father.

There was a [URL="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/abinazir/2011/06/15/what-are-chances-you-would-be-born/"]1: 400,000,000,000,000[/URL] chance of you being born: what have you done with your miraculous life today?

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Posted : January 28, 2016 12:40 pm
Alana33
(@Alana33)
Islander

Isn't he the one that had the foster children removed.
They were his main source of income.

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Posted : January 28, 2016 12:55 pm
LiquidFluoride
(@LiquidFluoride)
Noble Member

Isn't he the one that had the foster children removed.
They were his main source of income.

yes and no.

here's an article on it:

Robert “LaVoy” Finicum and his wife Jeanette were foster care parents for troubled boys. Finicum estimates that over the past decade, more than 50 boys came through their ranch near Chino Valley, Arizona. The boys often landed there from mental hospitals, drug rehabs and group homes for emotionally distressed youth.

“My ranch has been a great tool for these boys,” Finicum said. “It has done a lot of good.”

http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/militant-says-foster-children-were-pulled-from-his-home-lavoy-finicum-burns-oregon/

his children were taken after the occupation started... so just a dick move by the government.

Kinda hard for me to see a family fostering children (maybe they cannot conceive? who knows...) as anything but a good thing. I dated a foster system worker for a while; those kids need ANY help they can get!

There was a [URL="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/abinazir/2011/06/15/what-are-chances-you-would-be-born/"]1: 400,000,000,000,000[/URL] chance of you being born: what have you done with your miraculous life today?

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Posted : January 28, 2016 1:06 pm
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