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Stop Accepting Cash = Less Robberies  

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sunshinefun
(@sunshinefun)
Island Expert

It was sad to hear about Coconuts being robbed but really...if establishments like Coconuts want to avoid being robbed, maybe they should STOP ACCEPTING CASH.

If they only accepted credit and debit cards after a certain point in the day, there would be nothing for the robbers to steal.

However, they're greed in not wanting to pay the credit card companies their 2.5 or so precent or pay their taxes puts them in the position to be robbed over and over.

If all the beach bars and other West End establishments got together on this and stuck with it, everyone would benefit.

Any thoughts on this?

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Posted : October 16, 2012 12:36 pm
Jamison
(@Jamison)
Noble Member

You're blaming the bars for being greedy, because they don't want to pay the credit card companies and turn away cash only users?

How about the cops do their job instead, okay?

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Posted : October 16, 2012 12:44 pm
blu4u
(@blu4u)
Prominent Member

What? Stop accepting cash because it causes robberies? Why stop there?
Why not just close down all the resturants and bars?

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Posted : October 16, 2012 1:27 pm
Ric
 Ric
(@Ric)
Reputable Member

Sunshinefun,
I'm afraid I will have to vote "NO!!" on your proposal.

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Posted : October 16, 2012 1:29 pm
IslandHops
(@IslandHops)
Prominent Member

Hey guys (Jam/Blu/Ric) - At least sunshinefun was proposing something. At lease give credit where credit is due (pun intended).

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Posted : October 16, 2012 5:02 pm
jostvandog
(@jostvandog)
Estimable Member

Does anyone think it may be feasable to post undercover cops in high risk or isolated bars/restaurants in the evening hours to deter robberies? If WAPA doesnt wipe out the bar owners these scumbacket thugs will

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Posted : October 16, 2012 6:20 pm
speee1dy
(@speee1dy)
Islander

you can't even gets cops to come out in a timely manner

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Posted : October 16, 2012 7:36 pm
Iris Tramm
(@Iris_Tramm)
Island Expert

you can't even gets cops to come out in a timely manner

I used to live in downtown C'sted in a well-known historic greathouse. Lived there for two seasons. Always carried a machete with me when I had to walk somewhere at night. I work at home and one afternoon noticed two white guys loitering outside of a home that was currently unoccupied and up for sale/rent; my landlord advised me it had been the subject of several recent robberies. The guys were looking all suspicious (glancing this way and that) and finally, one hoisted the other up over the locked gate. I said, loud enough for them to hear, "Really, guys?" and they just looked around even more suspiciously and then the first guy opened the gate from the inside and let the other in. So, being a good neighbor, I called VIPD. The dispatcher had ZERO interest in my story of an alleged break in until I mentioned that it was two guys were white and then OHMYGOD the WHOLE FREAKING VIPD SQUADREON showed up. Half a dozen cops, lights and sirens a-blazing, bullet-vested guys in SWAT team gear with guns drawn, a K-9 unit, police SUVs, forensic trucks ... there may have even been an ambulance and a fire truck. All before I got off the phone with the dispatcher -- less than five minutes.

People are free to draw their own conclusions from this.

I still carry the machete.

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Posted : October 16, 2012 8:25 pm
divinggirl
(@divinggirl)
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If they only accepted credit and debit cards after a certain point in the day, there would be nothing for the robbers to steal.

They will still steal from the customers that may have cash, jewelry, phones, etc. Or get pissed at the lack of cash and start beating people.

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Posted : October 16, 2012 10:00 pm
gparrot
(@gparrot)
Estimable Member

The only real solution to the problem....is to hire a new police chief ....and police officers....making the stipulation that they cannot have any relatives living on the islands.....If they hired police from the mainland....this would not be a problem. How about hiring ex-military police coming home from Afghanistan whose roots are on the mainland.

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Posted : October 17, 2012 1:53 am
Jamison
(@Jamison)
Noble Member

That's pretty much the truth.The cops are either Keystone Cops or Criminally Corrupt.

I haven't even lived here for a full year and I know three people who've been murdered this summer alone. One at the place I use to work, that now isn't open.

If the bar didn't accept cash at night, the robbers would come earlier. If they didn't accept it at all, the robbers would steal other stuff. All that would do is hurt the business owners, not accepting cash.

The bars need a better alarm system, similar to banks. Heck, I worked in a junkyard that had open phone lines all the time. You pick it up and every other yard can hear you through the speaker. You could alert every bar and the cops at the same time. You just need cops who are willing to do something.

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Posted : October 17, 2012 11:00 am
vicanuck
(@vicanuck)
Noble Member

Does anyone really carry cash and jewelery when they go out at night on STX? I know I don't. I think the credit/debit card only idea is worth trying but as sunshinefun suggests, all area businesses need to particiapate to make it effective. The only reason to accept cash is to not declare the income me thinks.

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Posted : October 17, 2012 12:20 pm
Iris Tramm
(@Iris_Tramm)
Island Expert

Does anyone really carry cash and jewelery when they go out at night on STX? I know I don't. I think the credit/debit card only idea is worth trying but as sunshinefun suggests, all area businesses need to particiapate to make it effective. The only reason to accept cash is to not declare the income me thinks.

Last time I went to Eat I asked my compainions if they thought I should leave my jewelry at home. They laughed, but I don't think it can be considered a joke anymore.

How utterly RIDICULOUS that in a community this size, I need to worry about that in any kind of legitimate way. I've lived in some of the biggest cities in the WORLD and thoughts like this never crossed my mind.

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Posted : October 17, 2012 2:52 pm
speee1dy
(@speee1dy)
Islander

i lived outside of dc and was never affraid. i have lived here for 8 years-we do not go out at night that much any more and if we do, we only go to certain places that have well lit parking. even when you take these precautions it does not gurantee your safety.

i purposley do not wear any jewelry either. it is a shame that we have to change how we live to try to stay safe from the bad guys

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Posted : October 17, 2012 7:47 pm
OldTart
(@OldTart)
Islander

From first-hand experience, the OP's proposal is impractical and illogical. There are very simple procedures a bar/restaurant owner can take to limit the losses in the event of a robbery and if anyone on this forum is an owner/manager who can benefit from my own experiences (learned the hard way) I'd be happy to share via PM.

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Posted : October 17, 2012 10:48 pm
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