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AandA2VI
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I realize that its pretty ironic to actually BUY chickens here but I would like to know if anyone has and RI reds or barred rocks chicks, not adults. Ive gone to the Dept of Ag. and the farm down hull rd. but they wont be getting any for a few months. Im open to other types of they are good egg producers and I CAN ship chicks here from the states but there is a minimum of 15. Maybe someone wants to go in with me on a group buy? I always have gotten my birds from https://www.mcmurrayhatchery.com/bar_baby_chicks.html and since they ship here it makes it pretty simple.

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Topic starter Posted : July 12, 2013 2:36 pm
Alana33
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Many landlords do not like chickens on their properties.
Once you have a chicken, the feral roosters will soon be on your doorstep, crowing to beat the band starting at 3AM, like an energizer bunny and continuing thruout the day.

Additionally, local zoning code for residential property does not allow for any fowl or farm animals.
Those are allowed in A-1 and A-2 areas only not R-1, R-2, R-3, etc.

If your landlord chooses to allow it, (he could be subject to fines as property owner if surrounding nieghbors complain to DPNR) you may want to check with your neighbors or you may find your chickens missing and/or dead, if they makes lots of noise. I personally would not choose to allow chickens on my property. There are tons of these nuisance fowl infesting the islands. Pls. consider NOT bringing anymore in to the islands.

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Posted : July 12, 2013 10:02 pm
East Ender
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There are tons of these nuisance fowl infesting the islands. Pls. consider NOT bringing anymore in to the islands.

AMEN! Come on out here to the east end and see what happens when someone decides they want chickens, their neighbors complain and they turn the darn things out.You can have as many chicks as you can catch....

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Posted : July 13, 2013 12:50 am
OldTart
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It's not ironic but sheer insanity and I'll add to that AMEN chorus. The last thing we need on this island is more damned backyard chickens, let alone them there foreign breeds! Good grief, if you want to raise chickens then go live somewhere way out in the boonies where you have no neighbors! :-X

By the way, Alana, 3AM? You must have had some pretty civilized chickens down there. The last place I lived in Wintberg those damned twits didn't know or care what hour was what and "dawn" for them started at 11PM all the way through to daybreak!

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Posted : July 13, 2013 1:28 am
AandA2VI
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Haters LOL. Theres already two coops at my house. One was for fighting cocks 🙁 I was told by my landlord. I had planned on ordering only females and if the roosters come around they will get a rude awaking by our neighborhood adopted dog who eats them. I will have to watch her with my chickens too. I was only planning on three and if they become an issue I will just make them into dinner. Its that simple. I havent ruled out grabbing a few of the local chickens to pen up, just don't know if they're good producers... but then again I always see mamas with chicks so.....

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Topic starter Posted : July 13, 2013 2:30 am
OldTart
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Haters? Not a hater of anything but where feral chickens and roosters are concerned I've lived around them long enough in different areas to be extremely annoyed by them when my sleep is interrupted (amongst other things). So because there's an old coop where you live it seems like a good idea to throw a few chickens in there? And your sweet little neighborhood dog with an appetite for wild chickens will demolish any visiting roosters? Sounds like a lovely plan and to heck with your neighbors and zoning laws ...

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Posted : July 13, 2013 11:02 am
East Ender
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A&A: I am not a fan of this new designation of "hater" for people who have different ideas from the speaker. I believe that chickens have a place, but a residential area is not it. And I do not think feral animals have a place at all. Yes, I include cats in that group.

What is your house zoned? Just because someone had coops on it, doesn't mean they were legal.

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Posted : July 13, 2013 12:50 pm
Anonny-mouse
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Am I the only one who saw the LOL after "haters"? It is obviously a lighthearted comment meant in jest. AandA is just joking around with y'all since everyone is so openly opposed to chickens...

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Posted : July 13, 2013 1:58 pm
East Ender
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Chickens, jet skis and dolphin prisons. Three items on which we can (mostly) agree.

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Posted : July 13, 2013 2:14 pm
Alana33
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Seriously, you'd prefer to have your chickens and then allow a dog to tear to pieces any feral rooster that comes on the property?
Not too inhumane, huh? I might add that once dogs become used to chasing and killing their prey, no pet in your area will be safe
so make sure your kitties NEVER get outside. Dogs that kill prey do not generally discriminate. Equal opportunity.

I do hope you will reconsider as there are so many nuisance fowl all over all 3 islands that it is disgusting. Bird Flu, anyone?

My motto is "chickens belong in the oven, not in the yard." By the time you feed them, make sure they are mite and intestinal parasite free, etc., it will have been cheaper to buy prepackaged and ready to fry from the store.

You can call me a hater if you like because I do quite despise the darned feral fowl and I absolutely loathe people that keep fighting cocks.
Throw in those that knowingly and willingly break the law by raising "chickens in in their backyards in residential areas" to suit their own purposes and there you have it. I know you are zoned residential.

Sorry A&A but too many people have been victimized/tortured due to this particular epidemic of a problem to be accepting of any attempts to increase the islands foul fowl population.

OT - Yes! 3AM but then the damned thing crowed every 8 seconds for the next 8 hours, took a nap and started all over again.
Talk about a scratchy voice crowing, too. I now own my own trap for these infernal pests.
Took days to trap this one. Thought I'd go out of my mind.

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Posted : July 13, 2013 2:17 pm
gringojj
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Personally, I find the roosters and chickens to be part of the charm of the islands. I do not have them but it seems that everyone abutting me does lol.

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Posted : July 13, 2013 9:51 pm
WavesNC
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I guess since I'm not living on the island yet, I am going to be wrong, but here's my two cents.
To my knowledge, bird flu, mites, et cetera are much more rampant among commercialized poultry flocks, not backyard chickens. The reason backyard chickens are gaining popularity is because they are healthier, and you know what you are consuming, versus buying chicken or eggs that are laden with antimicrobial feed (read ARSENIC) which is causing the multi-drug resistance to antibiotics and is linked to our chronic illness epidemic. So all of you who hate the sound of a cock, here's wishing you good health.

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Posted : July 13, 2013 11:55 pm
AandA2VI
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Holy crap - yes there WAS a LOL behind "haters". While I totally appreciate the ideas so vividly expressed, Ive had chickens most of my life. Even in Az and the summers when we had to bring them inside on the hottest days. The coops are on the far end of the property and I am 100% POSITIVE that even roosters wouldn't be as bad as my neighbors down the road that blare their music so loud 24/7. I had planned to keep my hens in a coop, with a range pen to my garden and wired off. Roosters will come around regardless if I have hens or not - and will have to deal with the dog. I have NO control over the dog. Its a stray that neighbors down the hill feed - none of us like here being free range but I dont complain as I know she would be just put to death at the pound like so many other poor stray pets. I NEVER let my cats out, however everyone else in this area does unfortunately. So in one hand its cruel to kill the roosters but in the other hand no one can stand them???? At a TOTAL loss for what I feel are attacks such as "sheer insanity". I don't feel its insane at all to desire cleaner, healthier eggs not packed with hormones and god knows what. Because SOME people are completely irresponsible please don't assume I am. I will take the advice and not order any, as I can understand that however I very well may decide to get some local hens provided its not illegal. Lastly I am not looking to raise chickens, only have a few for non fertile eggs. I would assume that since my landlord gave me the OK then, he is in fact OK with it? I have no clue if he knows his zoning here - Alana, where can I find that out?

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Topic starter Posted : July 14, 2013 1:05 am
AandA2VI
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I guess since I'm not living on the island yet, I am going to be wrong, but here's my two cents.
To my knowledge, bird flu, mites, et cetera are much more rampant among commercialized poultry flocks, not backyard chickens. The reason backyard chickens are gaining popularity is because they are healthier, and you know what you are consuming, versus buying chicken or eggs that are laden with antimicrobial feed (read ARSENIC) which is causing the multi-drug resistance to antibiotics and is linked to our chronic illness epidemic. So all of you who hate the sound of a cock, here's wishing you good health.

Thats exactly right... keeping healthy chickens is all about keeping them clean. Those places where they have masses of chickens for eggs and butchering are DISGUSTING not to mention all the hormones and vaccinations they give to them that transfer into OUR bodies. I knew a guy in TX that had one of those places. I am betting that anyone protesting keeping backyard chickens would change their tune if they saw the filth that the poor commercial birds live in, or they'd stop eating chicken/eggs all together. Plus I very much enjoy the chickens - just as I do my garden.

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Topic starter Posted : July 14, 2013 1:14 am
Alana33
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If you look in the VI code/zoning book (Virgin Islands Zoning, Building and Housing Laws and Regulations) you will find that fowl and farm animals (sheep, goats, cows, etc.) are only permitted in designated A-1 & A-2 (Agriculture) zoned properties.

Whether your landlord permits use of his residential property or not, he is the one that gets the fine if keeping of chickens, roosters, ducks or whatever manner of fowl or farm animals being kept on any property not zoned for agriculture, if there is a complaint issued to DPNR by neighbors. Whether people obey the Laws is an entirely different matter but it is the law.

You can call DPNR yourself to check. I know as there are so many people that I know that have had to deal with this problem, myself included over the years. I don't have a problem with you keeping chickens as long as you do so on properly zoned property. The island is over-run with these feral roosters and chickens and it is a major problem for so many.

It is not part of the charm. It is a profound nuisance and health hazard and thousands of people will tell you the same thing. It also quite devalues property to hear roosters crowing and see chickens running around when showing a property for sale or rent. Prospective buyers or tenants, see or hear them and they want to move on, not move in. Vacationers complain if they have to listen to roosters crowing under their windows of their Vacation Villas they spend considerable money to enjoy themselves at. The list goes on.

Bottom line: It is illegal.

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Posted : July 14, 2013 5:28 am
Alana33
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Chickens, jet skis and dolphin prisons. Three items on which we can (mostly) agree.

Amen to that!

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Posted : July 14, 2013 5:32 am
East Ender
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"Personally, I find the roosters and chickens to be part of the charm of the islands"

This and, "I think the iguanas are so cute!" are statements that frequently are heard coming from visitors.:P

A&A: I know you used the LOL, but I bet you weren't prepared for the vehement opposition to your question, eh? 😉

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Posted : July 14, 2013 11:40 am
gringojj
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Well Alana I am entitled to my opinion that I find them part of the island charm. You are entitled to your opinion too but just because you disagree with me doesn't mean you have to attack my opinion. And I don't believe that most people don't like them because so many people have them. You can't tell me all my neighbors that have chickens and roosters find them to be a nuisance.

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Posted : July 14, 2013 11:44 am
OldTart
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Well Alana I am entitled to my opinion that I find them part of the island charm. You are entitled to your opinion too but just because you disagree with me doesn't mean you have to attack my opinion. And I don't believe that most people don't like them because so many people have them. You can't tell me all my neighbors that have chickens and roosters find them to be a nuisance.

Aren't you on STX? You're certainly entitled to your opinion as it pertains to where you live and on which island. But this discussion is about STT and those responding know the area in which the OP lives. Were she living way out West in Bordeaux there likely wouldn't have been a murmur. We knows of what we speaks.

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Posted : July 14, 2013 12:54 pm
gringojj
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Yes I am on stx and know nothing about the chicken situation on stt.

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Posted : July 14, 2013 1:12 pm
Alana33
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Well Alana I am entitled to my opinion that I find them part of the island charm. You are entitled to your opinion too but just because you disagree with me doesn't mean you have to attack my opinion. And I don't believe that most people don't like them because so many people have them. You can't tell me all my neighbors that have chickens and roosters find them to be a nuisance.

You are quite entitled to your opinion, I did not say you were not and if you find them, "charming" more power to you. I don't.
All your neighbors that keep them are in complete disregard of the law and their neighbors. Glad I do not live there.

Glad you don't have an "energizer rooster" crowing to beat the band under your window and making a constant noise. Some people don't mind it. Personally, I like the peace and quiet of my location sans the clucking chickens and crowing roosters. Haven't had to use my trap for quite awhile (Thank Goodness) but a couple yrs. ago I trapped 27 hens and chicks and 12 roosters, literally on my doorstep in a 1 yr. period.
I handed them off to a chicken farmer on properly zoned A-1 land with a no-escape pen, meaning it had top, bottom and 4 sides as the damned things fly quite well when they want.

I have friends living on the East End that are so inundated with crowing roosters they must seal up their house and run A/C 24/7 just to have relief from the constant crowing and pay a hefty WAPA bill to "enjoy" their home. It should not be that way.

Just remember, it is illegal to have fowl in any locations not specifically zoned A-1 & A-2.

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Posted : July 14, 2013 3:26 pm
sttpepper
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I have to agree with the nuisance of a rooster that crows all the time. Many times over the years, I have had potential tenants specifically ask if there are any roosters in the neighborhood (the reason they are moving from their current location).

For many years, I did not have chickens or roosters in the area. However, there is a rooster and several chickens that have taken up residence nearby. I have cats that use a cat door to go in/out at their convenience.

The problem is that the chickens and their chicks ALSO use the cat door to come into MY house to eat the cat-food.

When I chase the chicken and chicks out of my house, they go in various directions knocking over items and "poo-ing" everywhere as I try to guide them out the door. Then I have a mess to clean up.

I also have a few iguana living nearby, but they are not a nuisance.

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Posted : July 14, 2013 7:57 pm
AandA2VI
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Im totally at a loss. Chickens are not illusive nor very smart. If you believe they are a health hazard and a major issue and invading your property including ruining income from rentals, a pellet gun makes easy work of them, plus free range dinner. I just get this whole woe is me vibe from this whole thread... about CHICKENS hahahhahah. Sorry literally hilarious to me. Oh well. I wont do anything illegal.... I hope everyone thats posted makes sure they stop properly at stop signs, doesn't smoke weed, and doesn't drive drunk... after all thats ILLEGAL also.... and I see it DAILY. Sorry to offend, its just MO.

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Topic starter Posted : July 15, 2013 2:08 am
gringojj
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Never fails for a good laugh for me and the family when I have to stop and let the chickens cross the road....I always ask "why is that chicken crossing the road" . Ok maybe they don't laugh anymore but I still do!

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Posted : July 15, 2013 2:39 am
PeteyToo
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Also , Don't forget , a lot of people don't use their seatbelts!!!!!..,, I See nothing wrong with a Lead Pellet blood laden , Iguana Poop eating feral chicken, as a "free range dinner" !!!!!! Uhmmmm-Hummm!!!,,, That's sum Goot eatin!!,,,, Finger Lickin Goot !!!
My $.03

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Posted : July 15, 2013 4:21 am
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