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Spartygrad95
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Saw in FB today a proposal for a campground in the bush behind Neltjeberg Beach. The pitchforks and petitions are already out from the locals who oppose ALL development

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Posted : July 27, 2015 5:03 pm
OldTart
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Good - to the petitioners and pitchfork-wielders! Some places should simply be left alone in their natural beauty ... Can you post a link to the site?

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Posted : July 27, 2015 5:09 pm
Spartygrad95
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Alana33
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Another one bites the dust.

I'm of 2 minds. If it's kept small, environmentally friendly and user friendly, maybe.....

People crap and throw trash there all the time since it's become more popular so maybe having a presence there will stop some of that but I'd be concerned with septic waste outflow, runoff and damage to an already stressed marine environment. I've seen the brown runoff water collect there and in Dorothea Bay after heavy rains, extending all the way out and past Inner and Outer Brass Islands.

Is it going to create noise, how are they going to handle the road, parking, security, lights on beach, etc. ? Whole buncha questions! Plus has to be approved by CZM (we know they'll give anyone a permit) and hopefully ACOE, EPA, etc.

I haven't seen anything built by Tillet that's been environmentally responsible.

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Posted : July 27, 2015 5:59 pm
Spartygrad95
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I don't care one way or another but people's comments about the project are borderline insane.

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Posted : July 27, 2015 6:25 pm
OldTart
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I read the page and the comments but didn't see how to comment in return. I'm very ambivalent about the proposal and although my initial reaction is NO - and primarily for the reasons noted by Alana in her post - I'ill definitely be keeping an eagle eye out for the application, the details, and how it's handled - as I'm sure will many others who have the same concerns.

I have a feeling that this is not going to be an application which will have an easy passage.

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Posted : July 27, 2015 6:34 pm
Spartygrad95
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This may show comments

https://www.facebook.com/groups/241455502718865/permalink/404000673131013/

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Posted : July 27, 2015 7:14 pm
Alana33
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Ha, Sparty!
You should have seen the local turnout when they wanted to build a huge dock, a helipad, in order to develop Inner Brass. They had to change the venue where the CZM meeting was to take place to a larger school auditorium and it was standing room only. Against the project. It never went thru.

This guy Tillet may be a sneaky Pete, so he bears watching.

Hope Off the Grid has a good motor for their food truck or once it's down there, it may not be moving back up.

Are they seriously considering moving from Sapphire location or adding this additional one? It'll definitely impact those living in and around that location and the road usage.

OT, you have to sign up/join Facebook to be allowed to comment.

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Posted : July 27, 2015 7:27 pm
OldTart
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OT, you have to sign up/join Facebook to be allowed to comment.

I'm on FB and was signed in. I may try later.

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Posted : July 27, 2015 8:53 pm
Spartygrad95
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OTG has a second location already at Coki. I saw advertisements at Tillet Gardens for a third location there, Neltjeberg may be 4

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Posted : July 27, 2015 9:50 pm
East Ender
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I think OTG is trying to compete with the St Thomas Restaurant group for numbers of outlets...

I don't have any real feelings about Neltjeberg. I have never been there. But it is interesting that one of the big reasons people don't want anything there is because they want their dogs to be able to run free. Personally, I think dogs should poop in their own yard, not on a beach...

Excuse me while I get my flame-retardant suit on and pop some popcorn....;)

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Posted : July 27, 2015 10:29 pm
Alana33
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Unfortunately, it not only dogs that poop down there and many leave their trash behind.

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Posted : July 27, 2015 10:49 pm
Spartygrad95
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I think OTG is trying to compete with the St Thomas Restaurant group for numbers of outlets...

I don't have any real feelings about Neltjeberg. I have never been there. But it is interesting that one of the big reasons people don't want anything there is because they want their dogs to be able to run free. Personally, I think dogs should poop in their own yard, not on a beach...

Excuse me while I get my flame-retardant suit on and pop some popcorn....;)

THIS! No flaming from me. People have a ridiculous notion that the beach belongs to them.

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Posted : July 27, 2015 11:20 pm
Exit Zero
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Is this the Angel LeBron Parcel?

http://www.mapgeo.com/usvi/

Let's see - Frenchmans Bay was undeveloped now it has a beach Bar [Abi] on what was a pristine sandy beach -- Botany Bay has a guard house -- Lindqvist is now a Magens Bay Authority dictatorship -- Great Bay is now a Ritz timeshare beach -- Turtle beach is behind locked gates at Water Point Sensi Beach is fenced off - the Governor wants to give Mandahl Beach away ---- ???? ---- sure, develop all the beaches, and let the really rich people keep putting gates up on the STJ beaches that aren't NPS - it is a fabulous plan and sure to benefit all Virgin Islanders.

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Posted : July 28, 2015 1:08 am
Ronnie
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Off the Grid opted out due to the public outcry.

RL8-)

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Posted : July 28, 2015 3:33 am
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