Can wife get job?
My wife and I are moving to STT because work is relocating me. We are tremendously excited because we have vacationed there several times, and have always talked about packing it in one day and moving there. Here is the problem, my wife is a bartender, she has a good job here, and we understand that she will make less there. That's fine. Our worry is whether she will be able to get a job! She has a felony criminal record for lewdness because she was caught relieving herself on someone's lawn after a long night of drinking when we were younger. Believe it or not, yes that's a felony here in NJ. Will this be a major problem, or will people kind of laugh and understand like they have here?
Matt: I don't think people are going to laugh at a felony record. Many jobs here require a police background check, so maybe she can look for something that doesn't require one.
I guess "laugh"was the wrong way to put it. It was very stressful at the time, but it's behind her. What I meant was as far as getting a bartending job, here, the two times she's actually needed a job she was just honest about what had happened and the owners understood and hired her anyway. Does tending bar require a police background check in STT? It's been long enough that we can have it expunged, but really what we are trying to avoid is spending about $5000 in lawyer fees to do it.
Quote "Believe it or not, yes that's a felony here in NJ"
I don't believe it! Really? Felony offense to pee in public? What if you can't hold it?!?!
I don't think she would have a problem here. If they ask and she tells that story I'm sure most people here would just get a chuckle out of it.
I see people peeing in public frequently here.
Everything from the little guy being told by his parents "just go over there" to the old guy leaning beside a building and everything in between. We'd have alot of felons.
Doesn't seem to phase anyone.:-o LOL Sometimes they even wave to ya!
I would think that most places would understand if you are up front. I'm not even sure how many places do backround checks on the islands. I think that a health card would be the most important thing that you would need to secure a job in the bartending industry. It's not like she's been charged with embezzlement and is looking to get a job at a bank. Everyone has some skeleton in their closet and my gut feeling with all the wonderful colorful people in the islands you might find the population here even more accepting.
Thanks guys! I was hoping that was the case!
I think a felony conviction for "public lewdness", no matter how cute the story behind it, is going to be a problem. Her best best is to be up front about it.
I'll start with welcome, and best wishes on your upcoming relocation.
Next, I'll preface my comments with: "This is clearly NOMB"--none of my business, but, since you mentioned it...
5K for an expungement is money well spent, IMHO. You may not want to do it now. But, if we're lucky, life is long, and thanks (or no thanks) to the economy, work life is lasting longer and longer for many of us. Why lose out on possible opportunities, opportunities that may be worth well more than 5K in the long run ?
You might look into one of the NJ law clinics such as at Rutgers, or, I'm sure the NJ bar association can recommend some good lawyers who may be able to do it for a mutually acceptable sum somewhere south of 5K.
Ha, you got to be kidding!
I don't think that incident will affect her AT ALL!
Especially as a bartender, if that is the worse that has happened, i'd say she is pretty dam conservative!
She got drunk & peed...so what, get over it!
I hate to go against the grain here, but I wouldn't mention it, if it comes up I'd tell the truth laughing the whole time.
Now really folks!
I totally agree with Islandlola. I don't know a THING about the laws of NJ or any other state, but seems to me you should be able to file the necessary paperwork without a lawyer, no?? Take care of it before you move. Once here, and you then decide to have it expunged, you will have a hassle dealing long distance.
But to answer your question, with my own humble opinion, I seriously doubt a bar is going to run any sort of check. They may check references, and if she applies at The Ritz, they'll probably check, but your neighborhood saloon won't bother.
Depending on how thorough the background check is, nobody may ever find out about it. I had a background criminal check done on me here which didn't go beyond VIPD. No FBI, and no police checks from any other states.
I had a background criminal check done on me in NJ which didn't go outside of NJ. They never found out that I was detained or arrested (not sure which) for public drinking in Mass. Actually I wasn't, but my brother was. He had no ID and was underage, so he used my name, since my name was of age. Thanks bro!
Tell her to keep her mouth shut, unless asked. They may not and if she is a good bartender she can get a jog here. After all she has a job now?
Not all employers in the VI are the same - some bend/break the rules, and there are some who pride themselves on conducting their business by the letter, so I think she should be up front with everybody, and go with an employer who isn't concerned about it. There are so many bars, I'm sure she'll find a position where she's welcomed.
If it has been 10 years or longer, it won't show up on most background checks anymore. Most people will do a basic background check which usually consists of the state they are in, not a national search. Those cost more to have done.
It would be worth it to get it taken care of though, especially while you are still in NJ. You can file the paperwork yourself and save yourself the $5k of having an attorney to do it. You can find all the necessary forms and filing fees on the Court's website. Or call the courthouse and they can tell where on the internet you can get the forms for that state. Each state varies so if you have any questions, the local courthouse will be your best bet. I used to work for a law firm in Arizona. It is really a lot easier than people think it is. Good luck with everything 🙂
5K for to have it expunged??? F@cking lawyers! That's a crock of crap! You can totally do it yourself! I live in Pa and had a DUI years ago....I got all the letters from attorneys to have my record expunged....needless to say, I did it myself for only $50.00! Just contact the County Court House and they will be able to get you all the necessary paperwork.
And I thought PA was gay with their laws.....WOW a felony for peeing! Who would have thought! And I know I've pee'd on the roadside of the Atlantic City Expressway numerous times....I guess that makes me a serious criminal! 😮