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(@east-ender)
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LOL 411! So I guess I just settle down on the sofa and wait for someone to pick up my form, eh? (Singing "Jeopardy" theme) Do- Do-do- do-do-Do-do...

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Posted : April 14, 2010 2:29 am
(@ms411)
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Yes, East Ender, you're supposed to stay home until census soon come.

They actually called me at my job today "to ask a few more questions", but I didn't give them my work number. I gave them my stateside cell number, and when I told them I didn't take personal calls at work, they said they couldn't make long-distance calls. Is this the 1910 census or 2010 census??? They wanted to know when I went to lunch, and I told them I don't take lunch (only govt workers get to take lunch! We private industry slaves have to work 24/7 to pay generate enough revenue to pay for this outrageously expensive census!) She said she was going to call me back on my cell, but so far, hasn't.

I'm really annoyed that they felt they could intrude on my job. They should get Skype so they can make Internet calls. In a place as transient as the US Virgin Islands, they sure are making a lot of assumptions that don't apply to the reality.

 
Posted : April 15, 2010 12:36 am
(@Tuesday)
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How did they call you at work if you didn't give them the number ?

 
Posted : April 15, 2010 1:05 am
(@east-ender)
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411: I would be very suspicious. (But not paranoid! 😉 ) I did not see any information about people calling. Someone IS supposed to come pick up my form, which by now is disintigrating from the elements... But what time DO you have lunch? Maybe we can meet for some tomorrow! Cash and Carry???

 
Posted : April 15, 2010 1:36 am
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Posted : April 15, 2010 1:36 am
(@Tuesday)
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HA ! Love the cartoon !

yes, they will call - (to check up on the census takers)
... but how did they get a number that wasn't given to them ? If they called based on the question of where 411 is employed, that is just downright skeeeery.

 
Posted : April 15, 2010 2:15 am
(@STXoldie)
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I had a Census taker leave a note to call her--she had a FL cell number.

 
Posted : April 15, 2010 10:25 am
(@Tuesday)
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Quiet here - what's going on with the Census ? Are you all answering all the questions ?
If you WORK for the census - enumerators, etc.... have you been PAID ?
I've met a few people who work, and have not been paid ... for the hourly work, gas, ferry rides, etc.

 
Posted : April 19, 2010 2:41 am
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A friend of mine actually quit (last day yesterday), partly because of issues with getting paid.

 
Posted : April 19, 2010 8:54 am
(@Tuesday)
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stephih, I'm sorry to hear that - I hope you friend eventually gets paid for hours worked as well as reimbursed for mileage, expenses, etc.

I am appalled that a US government program as huge as this has allowed the VI (through the UVI) to make it's own rules regarding pay.
....... or perhaps they are unaware of what is going on here. That seems more likely.

I know of 2 people personally who did not get paid, and were told they would not be paid until they has submitted 10 D-2's, which are the questionnaires which the enumerator needs to fill out for the occupant. If they pick up the D-13's, which are the forms which were mailed, to be picked up by an enumerator - those do not count.

 
Posted : April 19, 2010 11:22 am
(@speee1dy)
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they came by sunday, i gave them my form and said i answered the questions i was going to and she said ok and that was that. very nice girl too.

 
Posted : April 19, 2010 2:22 pm
(@Leebug72)
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i had to sit down with the gentleman and fill it out. Well, he filled it out and I felt like smashing my head against a wall. it took well over and hour to complete and he wouldn't let me fill it out myself.

good luck,
Bri

 
Posted : April 19, 2010 9:37 pm
(@Tuesday)
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He cannot force you to answer the questions. He cannot force you to do anything.

If you did not receive your form in the mail, you can go to Nisky Center and get a form and fill it out yourself.

Did he actually tell you, or imply, that you had to answer all the questions?

 
Posted : April 19, 2010 9:49 pm
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Tuesday,
Your Truthistreason.net Should read what they cite.

Constitution of the United States Article 1, Section Section 2:
" The Actual Enumeration shall be made within three years after the First meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent term of ten years, in the manner as they shall by Law."

 
Posted : April 21, 2010 12:48 am
 imij
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Love you all, and love the comments....but I live in a well populated community,,,,,,,,,,they don't come to us, (not normally)....but they do to you folks in the VI because there is very little knowledge out there about the community! Trust me!!!! I have been researching moving to the VI for over a year, and I'm no Dumb-ass!!!! There is little knowledge about the folks in the VI......aka Schools? Well, do something! Tell them a thing or two!

Happy 4/20........love yas! you've all been great!!!!!

 
Posted : April 21, 2010 4:07 am
(@stephyjh)
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After weeks of discussion, when we were supposed to get our census forms on the 1st, the census worker FINALLY bothered to drop them off for the resident students today. *rolls eyes* And will be back to get them on Thursday, so we'd better hurry up.

 
Posted : April 21, 2010 4:35 am
Jumbie
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It could be months or perhaps never that a census worker finds their way to our house.

 
Posted : April 21, 2010 9:15 pm
(@Tuesday)
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It could be awhile - more enumerators are quitting all the time - the fact that they aren't paid probably has lots to do with that - the lack of information / communication / confusion doesn't help either.

 
Posted : April 21, 2010 11:55 pm
(@poorthang)
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I hope they DON"T find me....how sad to make regular folk work for free.:-(....classic inept VI....as Clint eastwood would say . A cluster f...

 
Posted : April 22, 2010 1:13 am
(@stephyjh)
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LOL poorthang--that's just the expression I used to describe it to my friend when he quit! They're supposed to get paid tomorrow...supposedly...but sine they already skipped one payday altogether, who knows?

 
Posted : April 22, 2010 3:53 am
 DUN
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A census tacker once tried to test me.
I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice Chianti.-
Anthony Hopkins, The Silience of the Lambs

 
Posted : April 22, 2010 12:06 pm
(@ms411)
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I work for a well-known private employer on STT, so it was easy to find me at my job. Whoever called me must not have had anything else to do, because I can't imagine what else she wanted to know that I hadn't already answered on the form. She even gave me her name. Needless to say, she hasn't called me back.

So far, nobody at my job has had face time with a census taker, and many people I know haven't even gotten the form. I personally think that they may only be counting about 50% (at BEST guess) of the population on St Thomas. But what's starting to really concern me about this census is the US govt makes considerable revenue from selling the numerical data to any number of agencies and private businesses, and they're buying bad data. Talk about not getting what you pay for!

The ad campaign is too confusing so it doesn't really motivate you to participate. They're advertising the census which is done every ten years, but they're lumping it with the ACS which really wasn't mandated in the constitution as far as I can tell. There's a big difference between being counted and asked to provide the info on the "census" form distributed in the VI. I understand the reasons for the questions that they ask, but in a country that supposedly prides itself on live and let live, some of the questions are pretty invasive, and kind of embarrassing if your living situation doesn't fit the American standard of ideal minimum conditions.

The census seems to pride themselves on counting the homeless, but how are they defining homeless? I would love to see them go to some of the structures I see erected in the bush to count those people. I read somewhere that they're going into soup kitchens, etc, but here in the VI, you can be "homeless" and never visit a soup kitchen, yet those people should be counted.

They're also doing the census at the end of "season" when there are fewer people around. I know I'm taking vacation soon, and many others I know are, too. And it's a Caribbean tradition to take long vacations, so how many of those people are they missing? It seems like the census is using Stateside assumptions in a Caribbean environment, so the data will be grossly inaccurate. All this money spent for bad data. They could just make some numbers up for free and have better info, IMO.

 
Posted : April 23, 2010 12:45 am
(@poorthang)
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If everyone would just stand still for 30 minutes.......let the Hubble telescope.... NSA satelllites.....and every Infrared scanner set on high lol we could count the whole world......and take a picture of your smiling faces.....say cheese !!!!! I'll bet we could even find Bin Laden Man was that easy or what ????*-)

 
Posted : April 23, 2010 1:03 am
Exit Zero
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Came by my house tonite after dark --2 women with ID - Crown Mountain.

 
Posted : April 23, 2010 1:18 am
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