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December 4, 2018 6:07 pm  

The NYT article referenced most recently by Alana had nothing to do with the validity of science reporting by the NYT. It simply fact checked claims that scientists who research global warming are paid large sums of money by outside influencers for their conclusions.

Ahh - found the source of singlefin's article. so here are the first lead in two paragraphs he left off.

"Much buzz has surrounded President Trump's "Fake News Awards." Given that part of our mission is debunking pseudoscience and bogus health claims, we felt obliged to offer our own Fake News Award ... for junk science.

Websites like Food Babe, Mercola, InfoWars, and Natural News are perennial contenders. But giving them the award is too easy and predictable. Anyone with a halfway decent frontal lobe knows that these websites are pure garbage."

source https://www.acsh.org/news/2018/01/17/fake-news-award-science-goes-new-york-times-12435

Author https://www.acsh.org/profile/alex-berezow

Another take on the author http://left.wikia.com/wiki/Alex_B._Berezow

https://www.acsh.org/sites/default/files/Introducing%20ACSH%202017.pdf

The current editor of RealClearScience https://www.realclearscience.com/authors/contributors/


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December 4, 2018 6:32 pm  

The earth is flat! LOL

Sorry had to inject some humor.

A friend of mine "sort of" believes in the possibility of a flat earth, believe it or not. And he also believes that climate change was fabricated by Al Gore to make $ for his friends. I tell him all the time he's nuts on both counts.

Can't read this thread anymore because everyone is beating a dead horse, depending on which side they believe in.

Will add my two cents: human industry and chemicals did not exist prior to the Industrial Age and they ARE contributing to climate change despite what the naysayers say.


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December 4, 2018 8:36 pm  

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December 4, 2018 9:27 pm  

Agreed, we could go on for another month finding articles to back up one point of view or another.

Another benefit / drawback of living in the Age of Misinformation

However, even if you sift through it all and cut out the extremists views on both sides, there’s a plausible middle ground.

Climate change is happening, our species undoubtedly contributes to it, that’s something I think we all agree on. But if you average out the estimates of time for things to change, I have no doubt humanity will find a means of dealing with it. The sky isn’t falling, the USVI will not sink anytime soon... Although I’m sure someone could find an article (probably in the NYT) that states otherwise.


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December 4, 2018 9:52 pm  

Yes, singlefin.
Arguments on both sides but if you look at our planet you can see that with the population and pollution it's attained that that there have been more and more extreme weather events that are much more prevalent these last years.

It's not imaginary.


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December 5, 2018 2:34 am  

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December 5, 2018 12:18 pm  

stxdreaming wrote:
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You're both so ignorant it's laughable. I'm not even going to begin trying to change your minds because facts don't matter to people like you.

Why do you have to get so personal? If that is their opinion then so what. Why do you feel the need to have to change people's minds? People are allowed to have a different view point that maybe different to yours you know.

Not if you are a liberal, they feel that there is no other opinion but theirs and by goodness you can not disagree or dispute them. Conservatives don't try and change anyone's mind whether you want to believe that the whole weather change issue is mainly another way to tax the hell out of people is not my concern.


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December 5, 2018 12:50 pm  

You have to give credit to some of the tactics they’ve come up with over the years though. The “Not-in-my-backyard” syndrome has gotten way out of control and done more harm than good.

Shuttering US manufacturing facilities due to environmental concerns and then forcing them to foreign country’s where environmental oversight is non-existent, certainly hasn’t improved global conditions.
Or for example,
The sudden discovery of an endangered species (slug, insect, tiny bird) in an affluent community which get laws enacted to restrict access or further development.

But of course all of this is moot if a major volcanic eruption takes place or a wayward meteorite the size to Ohio strikes the planet.


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December 6, 2018 9:58 pm  

Whether man made/accelerated or natural, global warming and its consequences are real. Vast swaths of humanity will suffer. The real problem is the carrying capacity of the planet. Just too many darn people. Perhaps Thanos was right.


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December 8, 2018 10:27 pm  

Anyone get the Thanos reference?


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December 9, 2018 1:27 am  

Thanos is a fictional supervillain appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics.

Thanos basically has the same mindset as a hardcore environmentalists who believes that wiping out most of humanity is a good thing for the planet.


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