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RevFD
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September 12, 2016 1:02 pm  

What's the deal'o with the CV dump site? Bins overflowing, layers of layers of garbage on the ground. This is the worst I've seen it in 3 years. Waste management seems unable to keep up with emptying the bins.


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Alana33
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September 12, 2016 1:37 pm  

Waste Mismanagement has the same problems on STT.


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Pdmargie
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September 12, 2016 1:42 pm  

What's the plan, if any, for when the landfills are,.....full???


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singlefin
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September 12, 2016 2:18 pm  

They pulled everything out and repaired all the massive potholes about three weeks ago. I was hoping they'd repave it, but at least it was regraded.
I've heard lots of excuses for the mess:
My favorite,
Garbage pickers throwing items out to get to the PRIME garbage at the bottom, then never throwing the undesirable garbage back into the dumpster when their done.


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September 12, 2016 2:44 pm  

Probably leaving it a mess so people will complain - that way they can justify shutting it down completely now that they can charge tipping fees.

Also commercial haulers might be dumping there instead of paying tipping fees.


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September 12, 2016 2:55 pm  

This is why we need to embrace the tipping fees like every other jurisdiction in North America. Only in the VI can haulers tip for free.


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jasona
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September 12, 2016 4:07 pm  

Garbage pickers throwing items out to get to the PRIME garbage at the bottom, then never throwing the undesirable garbage back into the dumpster when their done.

That definitely happens every single night but residents not willing to put trash into the bins because a) the bins are full. b) think they're doing someone favor by leaving stuff out to be recycled. c) unable to reach the bins because of stuff left out. d) on and on and on.

I've watched very wealthy old ladies leave crap on the ground and i've seen the poorest of the poor digging through the dumpsters. This is everyone's problem but ESPECIALLY the company that is being paid to manage the site.


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September 12, 2016 4:08 pm  

What's the plan, if any, for when the landfills are,.....full???

We do not have landfills in the VI. They are dumps.


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RevFD
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September 12, 2016 5:02 pm  

What's the plan for the CV site? I recall they were talking about shutting it down a couple of years back.


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vicanuck
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September 12, 2016 5:14 pm  

I'm 100% sure that the CV bin site will be closed sooner or later.

You'll be driving your trash to the Peter's Rest Convenience Center.

Then, you'll be paying to dispose of your trash.

Its coming.


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September 12, 2016 5:47 pm  

Then, you'll be paying to dispose of your trash.

Its coming.

Or you can just dump your trash on the side of the road for free!!


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speee1dy
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September 13, 2016 11:09 am  

like so many others

Then, you'll be paying to dispose of your trash.

Its coming.

Or you can just dump your trash on the side of the road for free!!


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IslandHops
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September 13, 2016 5:41 pm  

Sounds like waste mismanagement hasn't been paying their bills and the sub-contract staff at the landfill walked off the job last Wednesday, effectively closing the landfill.

This is why none of the bins are being collected - there is no where to take them.


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vicanuck
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September 14, 2016 11:09 am  

Sounds like waste mismanagement hasn't been paying their bills

Because they don't have a revenue stream...like the tipping fees every other municipality in North America charges.


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IslandHops
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September 14, 2016 1:09 pm  

Sounds like waste mismanagement hasn't been paying their bills

Because they don't have a revenue stream...like the tipping fees every other municipality in North America charges.

They managed to operate for years without tipping fees. They are just another bloated and mismanaged government department that has finally gone past the tipping point.

We'll continue to see the failure of basic infrastructure under King Mopps reign, while he and his jesters jet around the world with champagne tastes and shiny new carriages.


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vicanuck
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September 14, 2016 3:36 pm  

I just don't understand how people can think that a municipal waste system can operate without charging the users for disposing of the trash.

I'm a business owner who generates a lot of waste and my disposal costs will likely double. So, I don't wan't to pay anymore than the next guy. But, waste disposal is a business no matter whether its run by the GVI, the private sector or both. I know it costs a lot to manage and maintain a system, even one as simple as ours.

Get with it.


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September 14, 2016 3:51 pm  

Seriously. "Well we didn't pay it back home" is the echoing cry. Sure you did, through your local taxes, one way or the other. It's often been wryly commented upon that many of our visitors step on the 'plane to come here and leave their brains behind. I think a whole lot of "transplants" do too if the perpetual bleating on this forum by some is any yardstick.


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CruzanIron
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September 14, 2016 4:07 pm  

Seriously. "Well we didn't pay it back home" is the echoing cry. Sure you did, through your local taxes, one way or the other.

.(tu)


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September 14, 2016 4:25 pm  

I have no problem with the costs.

However, with zero enforcement of littering/dumping laws, I do have a problem with the certainty of finding more and more large trash at my local dumpster. Any given day, there's already some random furniture, a few tires, car fenders, half a washing machine, and a truckful or two of yard waste there. WMA (/trash haulers) do nothing to clean the dumpster sites, so every few months residents get fed up with it and haul that large waste to the transfer station themselves.

WMA has discussed policing the dumpster sites more with personnel or cameras - but that will just lead to that washing machine being dumped in the bush a half mile away.

Or do you think that since those violators currently illegally dump their tires in the bush, that the new fees will somehow incentivise them to drive to the WMA bin sites instead and pay the fees??


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September 14, 2016 4:41 pm  

The roadside dumpsters will be a thing of the past in a few year's time as more waste stations are constructed.


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September 14, 2016 4:50 pm  

Awesome - so then those people who already don't care and already throw tires in the bush will be sure to drive across the island to the WMA location instead.


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September 14, 2016 4:57 pm  

OT - Do you find the perpetual bleating to be pitiful?

Many animals might bleat, though a bleat is a slightly weak, high-pitched sound, which is why it's typically made by young animals. When baby animals bleat, their mothers naturally go to them to feed or comfort them. You might also describe a human's cry or whine as a bleat, if it's particularly pitiful. The word comes from a Germanic root, and it's imitative of the sound itself.

I think a whole lot of "transplants" do too if the perpetual bleating on this forum by some is any yardstick.


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OldTart
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September 14, 2016 5:07 pm  

Awesome - so then those people who already don't care and already throw tires in the bush will be sure to drive across the island to the WMA location instead.

Yes, we must ALWAYS concentrate on the negatives.


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OldTart
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September 14, 2016 5:10 pm  

OT - Do you find the perpetual bleating to be pitiful?/quote]

Yes. I feel pity for those who can so rarely see a positive but live under a cloud of negativity.


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Alana33
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September 14, 2016 5:26 pm  

On a positive note, my trash certainly enjoys the scenic tour it gets on the way to find a usable dumpster along my route.


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