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 Neil
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Anybody with Innovative TV also have a DVR hooked up to their TV? ..so they can record/pause their programs?

I'm moving to a place that doesn't have Dish and will terribly miss my DVR if I can't figure this out.

I called TIVO and they say that their menu service -which you have to subscribe to in addition to buying the DVR/Tivo box, doesn't work with Innovative in the Virgin Islands.

So I'm guessing that I need a basic DVR with manual recording capabilities (and can't use their online/over the network guides that most DVRs offer). By manual I mean, "setting the channel and recording time manually."

Apparently, older model TIVOS had this manual option, but the newer ones do not.

 
Posted : January 15, 2010 7:13 pm
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My TIVO series 2 DVR works fine with Innovative. On initial install, I entered my zipcode (00840), and Innovative popped up as an option. I use the wireless adapter to connect to my router, which then connects to the internet for the programming information. It was really easy and works well!

 
Posted : January 15, 2010 8:10 pm
 JE
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I have a Series 2 Tivo and it has worked fine with Innovative for the past two years. My Tivo uses the phone line for programing updates and calls a St. Thomas number once a week. I purchased mine off of EBay a couple of years ago. The Innovative cable boxes will not work with the serial cable that newer TIVO boxes use to change channels, which is why you need an older model that uses the infrared cables for channel changing. The TIVO charge is $12.95/month when automatically billed to a credit card.

 
Posted : January 15, 2010 10:50 pm
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Neil,
I've seen a few Tivos hooked up to Innovative but have no idea what model or interface they were using.

Are you sure they can have a rule prohibiting dishes? You may want to ask around. One of your neighbors might already have a dish you can tie into.

The following is an excerpt from the FCC law regarding this subject.

"The new rule prohibits restrictions that impair the installation, maintenance or use of antennas used to receive video programming. These antennas include DBS satellite dishes that are less than one meter (39") in diameter (larger in Alaska), TV antennas, and antennas used to receive MMDS. The rule prohibits most restrictions that: (1) unreasonably delay or prevent installation, maintenance or use, (2) unreasonably increase the cost of installation, maintenance or use, or (3) preclude reception of an acceptable quality signal. This rule means that, in most circumstances, viewers will be able to install, use and maintain an antenna on their property if they directly own the property on which the antenna will be located."

"The rule applies to state or local laws or regulations, including zoning, land-use or building regulations, private covenants, homeowners' association rules, condominium or cooperative association restrictions, lease restrictions, or similar restrictions on property within the exclusive use or control of the antenna user where the user has an ownership or leasehold interest in the property."

 
Posted : January 16, 2010 12:20 pm
 Neil
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Thanks peoples!

After calling Tivo AGAIN, they did confirm Tivo works here with Innovative.
What the rep said about the previous rep saying it wont' work was that they probably only read that Tivo won't SHIP to the USVI.
But service here works. That's something I should have known...that it pays to talk to different people when the first answer is "no".

I just bought a used Tivo series 2 for $10.50 plus shipping on Ebay.
It's not HD capable, which is why people are selling them so cheap as they upgrade to HD capable DVRs.

Skys.... you and I have talked about that 'law' before... unfortunately Condo Associations have people sign agreements to abide by their rules. But...was it you who wrote that SweetLime at Carambola now allows Dish? Alas, I'm moving back to Saman.

 
Posted : January 16, 2010 7:51 pm
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Sweet Lime Village allows them and Saman is discussing it.
At Sweetlime Village we have 6 customers so far and they share 3 dishes. Drive through and you'll see they are hardly noticable.
I did notice a DirecTV dish and they were very proud of it. Whoever installed it didn't take asthetics into account.

I've had a few customers "buck" the system at condos and have never heard that they had to take down the dish. Quite the opposite. The neighbors realize the advantages and start inquiring how to tie into it. It's much better though if the assn gets involved so they can at least understand and control it. A dish on everyone's railing is not the best approach. Discreetly tucking them somewhere and sharing the antenna makes more sense. People that don't want it can stay with cable. Some people actually want both.

Good luck with the Tivo and Innovative.

 
Posted : January 16, 2010 8:20 pm
 Neil
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I have no problem with dishes. They could easily be hid or mounted on rooftops.

Part of the problem is that there are 3 different associations over there.

Another issue, at least at Saman, is that they have some sort of group deal with Innovative. The cost is part of their assessment.

I hear things are changing over there. Time marches on!

 
Posted : January 17, 2010 1:13 am
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I have had a TIVO for three years and love it and couldn't live without it. Works fine for me.

 
Posted : February 17, 2010 4:37 am
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"unfortunately Condo Associations have people sign agreements to abide by their rules."

I don't think a condo assoc.can require a signature to an agreement which takes away your right to receive Sat TV or any other entertainment.

I beleieve the FCC rules are the rules.

any lawyers out there?

sloop jones

 
Posted : February 17, 2010 9:17 am
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It may boil down to who owns the land under the condo. If the association owns the land, then I think they can certainly make rules.

 
Posted : February 17, 2010 10:46 am
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Federal Law Trumps the Condo Association Rules/Agreements.

 
Posted : February 17, 2010 11:02 am
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@Neil,Kinda curious what have you heard about Saman, new management maybe?

 
Posted : February 17, 2010 12:16 pm
 Neil
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haven't heard a thing.

Did get a TIVO2 off of ebay for $35 (!), however, and it's working fine with the Innovative schedule.

 
Posted : February 17, 2010 4:13 pm
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Glad you got the DVR all set up...now if only you could get NHL Center Ice so you could watch the Blue Jackets! Have you started recording all of you know who's special programs????Lol...

 
Posted : February 17, 2010 5:01 pm
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