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geepa
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are there emission tests in st Croix?

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Topic starter Posted : April 30, 2015 12:29 pm
Alana33
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EPA has oversight.
Here's a link for various articles dealing with emissions in the VI.
http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&source=android-browser&hl=en-US&q=epa+emission+checks+on+st.+Croix+VI

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Posted : April 30, 2015 1:17 pm
OldTart
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If you mean testing for auto emissions, no.

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Posted : April 30, 2015 1:20 pm
CruzanIron
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No. Crucians believe that the strong tradewinds will blow the pollution from cars and trucks away and therefore we suffer no harm from the high levels of pollution from cars and trucks.

But they also believe that air pollution from a refinery will sit and not move off of the island, and pockets of pollution can jump from one part of the island to another and not affect the people in between.

Oh, and living next door to a highway and downwind from the airport runway in no way causes ill health effects. All harmful air pollution comes only from oil refineries.

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Posted : April 30, 2015 1:29 pm
Alana33
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How about WAPA, Diagio, burning dumps, and numerous other things?

Think you're a bit sensitive on Hovensa, CruzanIron

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Posted : April 30, 2015 2:04 pm
CruzanIron
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Alana, remember the false claims against Hovensa? Did anyone ever apologize to them for all of the false claims? For that matter, did the GVI ever apologize to the students at Central High for making them sick?

WAPA is apparently one of those polluters that also doesn't make people sick. No one talks about increased cancer or asthma levels in people that live downwind from them.

It's been a while since we had a dump fire, and I'm not aware of any EPA or DPNR findings against Diageo or Cruzan Rum.

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Posted : April 30, 2015 2:36 pm
Alana33
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We have fires at the STT dump. Too many.

Cornwall needs her walking papers and the VI needs, desperately,
a waste management authority that actually knows what it's doing
in regards to managing waste as opposed to just managing contracts
for waste haulers.

What pollutants effect one island can effect all. And does.
Air borne pollutants can be devastating as it effects your plants, drinking water, air, land, ocean waters and marine life. Your life.
We're not exempt.

We have septic waste run-off, tainted drinking water from WAPA, unregulated pesticides usage and run-off, farms growing crops with untested, untreated and polluted pond waters, possibly ground waters, all kinds of things.

East End SJ can be effected by BVI burning their waste, etc.
We get Sahara dust from Africa that infects corals with bacteria that creates diseases, we've had residues from down island volcanic eruptions.

Considering we mostly rely on cistern water, what's on our rooftop affects the quality of our drinking water. Lord, help you if your on potable water from Wapa. No control there unless you install really good filtration systems. Keep your roof tops clean!

If people don't speak out and get our new Governor, Senators,
EPA and other enforcement agencies involved, then problems
shall continue to mount.

DPNR just got their hat handed to them for NOT DOING THEIR JOBS with the EPA IG report. Hopefully, that will help turn things around.

As I recall, there were a few verified claims by EPA dealing with Hovensa. There are many issues, not just one or two and not just Hovensa. What about the "rum mold" on STX that Gittens (?) was
just discussing?

People need to be aware and make sure all these issues get dealt with. Insist on quality!

"If you see something, say something."

http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&source=android-browser&hl=en-US&q=epa+emission+checks+on+st.+Croix+VI

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Posted : April 30, 2015 4:01 pm
speee1dy
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there was supposed to be a cancer study done in the territory, i even think they had funding for it. they wanted to see if there were clusters of cancer somewhere. never got done this was years ago

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Posted : April 30, 2015 4:46 pm
OldTart
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there was supposed to be a cancer study done in the territory, i even think they had funding for it. they wanted to see if there were clusters of cancer somewhere. never got done this was years ago

What sort of "cancer study"? This one from 2011?:

http://www.epa.gov/region2/air/revised_vi_factsheet_nl_edits_aug17.pdf

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Posted : April 30, 2015 5:39 pm
CruzanIron
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I noticed one line in that study

The levels of all of the VOCs that
were measured fell below
screening values for short term
and long term non-carcinogenic
health effects. In addition the
levels were well below EPA
cancer screening levels.

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Posted : April 30, 2015 6:21 pm
Alana33
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You're still focused on Hovensa. I'm not.
That horse is dead and gone.
For better or worse.
Present issues should be on the forefront.

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Posted : April 30, 2015 6:28 pm
CruzanIron
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To get back on topic, do you support vehicle emissions testing?

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Posted : April 30, 2015 6:35 pm
OldTart
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To get back on topic, do you support vehicle emissions testing?

I was just thinking, "Gee, if the OP was just asking a simple question about vehicle emissions testing, he/she sure did get a bellyful!"

I know you weren't asking my opinion, Cruz, but I don't see vehicle emissions testing as a real necessity here. I think it was CA who started off the whole thing and that was many years ago. Since then, vehicle manufacturers have come a long, long way in reducing the emissions and I just don't think it's a vital shortfall here.

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Posted : April 30, 2015 6:50 pm
Alana33
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Was that the topic or if there was overall emissions testing?
OP was not specific in the question.

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Posted : April 30, 2015 7:09 pm
OldTart
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Was that the topic or if there was overall emissions testing?
OP was not specific in the question.

Since the OP doesn't yet live here but is coming for a three year work contract, my assumption was that it was likely he/she is considering bringing a vehicle here. I realize the inherent danger in making assumptions but it seemed more logical than anything else.

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Posted : April 30, 2015 7:35 pm
Alana33
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Come on , don't tell me Hovensa, Marrietta, etc. NEVER polluted.
Get a grip and stop being so defensive.
Would be nice if they were so protective of you as you are of them.

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Posted : April 30, 2015 7:43 pm
Alana33
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So if the OP has a polluting vehicle.
Bring it on.

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Posted : April 30, 2015 7:47 pm
CruzanIron
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Come on , don't tell me Hovensa, Marrietta, etc. NEVER polluted.
Get a grip and stop being so defensive.
Would be nice if they were so protective of you as you are of them.

I never said they never polluted. But I do wonder why people think it is up to companies only not to pollute but take no personal responsibility to make sure their cars don't exceed their allowable pollution limit by accepting testing. People will burn trash instead of composting or recycling yet condemn a company for effectively doing the same thing.

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Posted : April 30, 2015 8:00 pm
Spartygrad95
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You think fraud and corruption is an issue now.. Institute an emissions testing program. They ditched it in Michigan because of the fraud. Here's a $20 make my car pass. Never mind... Start a program and I'll buy a bunch of machines and get rich and not decrease pollution

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Posted : April 30, 2015 8:05 pm
Alana33
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Seriously, you haven't lived here very long if you think we're immune to this type of crap.

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Posted : April 30, 2015 8:27 pm
Spartygrad95
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I know exactly that it would happen Alana. It was sarcastic. I've already been introduced to a few people that can make my car "pass inspection". Emissions would be even worse fraud

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Posted : April 30, 2015 8:37 pm
Alana33
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Hopefully, you'll be ethically inclined to just fix your car instead of continuing to perpetuate illegal behaviors. No sarcasm intended.

Of course it doesn't help if the people at inspection lane continue to allow and encourage.

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Posted : April 30, 2015 8:46 pm
Spartygrad95
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Nothing wrong with my car, but if there was and I wasn't as fortunate as I am by making a living wage, I would do whatever it took to ensure my mode of transportation was on the road. Inspections and emissions tests are an example of a hidden regressive tax.

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Posted : April 30, 2015 8:55 pm
Alana33
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Let's see if taxi vans come first on the list.
Ha! They don't even pay road tax .

We've already seen how things tend to work (or not)
by circumventing laws. I
t's not in our overall best interest.

My philosophy you do it and/ or get it done right the 1st time.
A standard of ethics helps greatly to delineate those fine lines.

Yes, one does learn from mistakes but that's on you to stand up
and continue improvements in your life and hopefully those of others.

Cheating just makes one smaller and shallower.
Way too much of that going on. IMO

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Posted : April 30, 2015 9:44 pm
OldTart
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geepa, hope your plans are coming along smoothly and that, if you were asking about vehicle emission testing, you now have the answer! 😀

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Posted : April 30, 2015 9:45 pm
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