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Spartygrad95
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Let's see if taxi vans come first on the list.
Ha! They don't even pay road tax .

We've already seen how things tend to work (or not)
by circumventing laws. I
t's not in our overall best interest.

My philosophy you do it and/ or get it done right the 1st time.
A standard of ethics helps greatly to delineate those fine lines.

Yes, one does learn from mistakes but that's on you to stand up
and continue improvements in your life and hopefully those of others.

Cheating just makes one smaller and shallower.
Way too much of that going on. IMO

It's a wonderful philosophy. Weren't you mentioning myopic in another thread. I worry about what is going on within the walls of my house. If someone doesn't have means to fix their vehicle and slips a person a $20 so they don't lose a job that doesn't even pay them enough to actually fix a car it isn't my place to make judgement. I fix my car because I want a safe vehicle to put my wife and son in and I am lucky enough to have the money if needed. That is not the case for many here or stateside. That is why I said it is a hidden regressive tax.

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Posted : April 30, 2015 9:50 pm
janeinstx
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No. Crucians believe that the strong tradewinds will blow the pollution from cars and trucks away and therefore we suffer no harm from the high levels of pollution from cars and trucks.

But they also believe that air pollution from a refinery will sit and not move off of the island, and pockets of pollution can jump from one part of the island to another and not affect the people in between.

Oh, and living next door to a highway and downwind from the airport runway in no way causes ill health effects. All harmful air pollution comes only from oil refineries.

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Posted : April 30, 2015 10:52 pm
geepa
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Yes, I am bringing two vehicles and I was wondering if there were any vehicle emission testing. Thanks for the helpful comments.

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Topic starter Posted : April 30, 2015 11:39 pm
Cruz
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I think heard the new governor mention getting it implemented and moving the current inspection process out of the hands of the govt.

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Posted : May 1, 2015 7:49 am
SausageInTheCan
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Yes, I am bringing two vehicles and I was wondering if there were any vehicle emission testing. Thanks for the helpful comments.

Why the concern? Are they going to fail if they are tested? Do they test them in the state you're living in now?
I was a tech for 25 years. Twenty of those years in a private inspection center. I would always laugh when people told me that they didn't want to bring it to state inspection because they knew it was going to fail. My reply was " If it's going to fail there then it's going to fail here".

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Posted : May 1, 2015 11:23 am
terry
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after all of the senators "took" their cuts, there was probably only a dollar left for the study.:D

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Posted : May 1, 2015 1:10 pm
speee1dy
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TERRY, the cancer study?

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Posted : May 1, 2015 4:50 pm
bobn
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It would be very difficult to track cancer because the islands haven't had a cancer registry. However, the Department of Health recently received funding to start a cancer registry so hopefully it will provide important data.

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Posted : May 5, 2015 10:04 pm
speee1dy
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bobn, that must have been what i was thinking of but i really thought they had the funding back when roger morgan still had his radio show. i remember hearing something on his show about it or something like it

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Posted : May 6, 2015 5:33 pm
vicanuck
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Emission testing = corruption.

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Posted : May 7, 2015 4:44 pm
IslandHops
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When I think of emissions testing I think of the immortal words of Mr. Taggart: "I'd say you boys have had enough!".

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Posted : May 7, 2015 5:34 pm
CruzanIron
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Has anyone here asked their mechanic to check their emissions? Is anyone concerned about and willing to do their part to reduce pollution?

I'll bet you whine about others polluting, though.

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Posted : May 7, 2015 6:54 pm
IslandHops
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Most modern vehicles will alert you if you have an emissions problem. The CEL (check engine light) is the tell tail sign. If it's lit, get it scanned and fix the problem. The built in diagnostics in today's automobiles are pretty impressive, and they need to be as regulations have become more extensive and the technology to control emissions more complex. The industry has come a long way from the exhaust sniffers of yesteryear.

And if you continue to drive around with the CEL on, just because you think she's running fine, you will be getting worse gas mileage and possibly causing permanent damage to your cars systems. Next thing you know you've got a clogged catalytic converter and a sizable repair bill.

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Posted : May 8, 2015 10:50 am
SausageInTheCan
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Most modern vehicles will alert you if you have an emissions problem. The CEL (check engine light) is the tell tail sign. If it's lit, get it scanned and fix the problem. The built in diagnostics in today's automobiles are pretty impressive, and they need to be as regulations have become more extensive and the technology to control emissions more complex. The industry has come a long way from the exhaust sniffers of yesteryear.

And if you continue to drive around with the CEL on, just because you think she's running fine, you will be getting worse gas mileage and possibly causing permanent damage to your cars systems. Next thing you know you've got a clogged catalytic converter and a sizable repair bill.

Today's "modern" vehicles do not diagnose themselves. The CEL alerts the driver and when it's brought in to be scanned, the tech does the diagnostics. Just because you get a code for an oxygen sensor doesn't mean replacing the sensor will fix it. It could be a mongoose chewed some wires, a blown fuse, a bad ground wire or the controller itself or something in between. Any tech that just replaces a part because the computer says so should learn to say "Would you like fries with that?"
Furthermore, the CEL can come on and your engine will run perfectly fine. The CEL in newer cars will turn on for numerous reasons not engine related. It could be a trans problem, traction control, transfer case etc. The reason the manufacturers did this was as not to put a dozen different lights on the dash. Mainly to save them on production costs and eliminate confusion.
Probably the only time you'll get a sizable repair bill is if you bring it to an idiot.

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Posted : May 8, 2015 12:25 pm
IslandHops
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Today's "modern" vehicles do not diagnose themselves....

We obviously have a different understanding. If the computer in my car recognized that there is a problem in the O2 sensor readings, it flips on the cel and stores a code indicating this (short version). Sure it won't tell me if its a broken wire versus a faulty component, but it has diagnosed a problem with the emissions system. It's not a root cause analysis but an indication. Arguing the semantics of the appropriate use of the word diagnosis is immaterial.

...Probably the only time you'll get a sizable repair bill is if you bring it to an idiot.

So if someone ignores the CEL and blows a catalytic converter they must be cheap as chips where you come from. Get serious, replacing a cat can be a sizable repair bill just for the part alone. The intelligence of the repair person does not relate to the price of the component. Yes, there are many things that can cause a CEL to come on, and your car may still run fine, but ignoring it could cost you some big coin.

In the absence of any government mandated emissions testing it is up to all of us to take responsibility for our vehicles. This means regular maintenance and paying attention to the lights and gauges.

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Posted : May 8, 2015 1:29 pm
Jamison
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If they start testing for emissions, I'd bet it's because someone realized how valuable the cats are.

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Posted : May 8, 2015 2:09 pm
SausageInTheCan
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Today's "modern" vehicles do not diagnose themselves....

We obviously have a different understanding. If the computer in my car recognized that there is a problem in the O2 sensor readings, it flips on the cel and stores a code indicating this (short version). Sure it won't tell me if its a broken wire versus a faulty component, but it has diagnosed a problem with the emissions system. It's not a root cause analysis but an indication. Arguing the semantics of the appropriate use of the word diagnosis is immaterial.

...Probably the only time you'll get a sizable repair bill is if you bring it to an idiot.

So if someone ignores the CEL and blows a catalytic converter they must be cheap as chips where you come from. Get serious, replacing a cat can be a sizable repair bill just for the part alone. The intelligence of the repair person does not relate to the price of the component. Yes, there are many things that can cause a CEL to come on, and your car may still run fine, but ignoring it could cost you some big coin.

In the absence of any government mandated emissions testing it is up to all of us to take responsibility for our vehicles. This means regular maintenance and paying attention to the lights and gauges.

A) I didn't say anything about a cat. converter.
B) I didn't say to ignore anything did I?
C) After 30 years as a Master Auto Tech and a teacher of automotive technology I've learned to ignore people who think they know more than I do.
D) O.k. Bring you car to a moron with your CEL on and then let me know if that individuals intelligence has an affect on the bill.
So by that standard you'll be fine with going to a doctor who graduated last from medical school.

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Posted : May 8, 2015 2:54 pm
Rawhide
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Hey guys my family and I are looking to possibly move to st Croix in the next couple of years. Are they currently doing emissions testing and what are the requirements? The reason I ask is I am planning on shipping my '89 Jeep Wrangler. I am currently in the process of doing a engine swap (replacing the gutless 4cyl for a Chevy V6). Both engines are from the same year. And I will have all the emissions controls on the vehicle. My concern is some states have very strict laws on engine swaps in relation to emissions. I don't want to pay to get it to the island and not be able to pass emissions because it's non original equipment.

Thanks in advance for the info.

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Posted : May 3, 2016 2:00 pm
CruzanIron
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Hey guys my family and I are looking to possibly move to st Croix in the next couple of years. Are they currently doing emissions testing and what are the requirements? The reason I ask is I am planning on shipping my '89 Jeep Wrangler. I am currently in the process of doing a engine swap (replacing the gutless 4cyl for a Chevy V6). Both engines are from the same year. And I will have all the emissions controls on the vehicle. My concern is some states have very strict laws on engine swaps in relation to emissions. I don't want to pay to get it to the island and not be able to pass emissions because it's non original equipment.

Thanks in advance for the info.

No emissions requirements in the VI.

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Posted : May 3, 2016 2:19 pm
Gumbo
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A good auto technician is very hard too find. Stt is full of morons that will plug in a scanner, read a code, then sell you a 1300.00 PCM . After that doesn't fix it, tell you
"Thats what the code said was bad. Now take it somewhere else and get it fixed cause we don't do transmission work."
It's been said before, I will say it again.
"STAY AWAY FROM CARIBBEAN AUTO MART"!!!

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Posted : May 3, 2016 11:13 pm
Scubadoo
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OK folks, most if not all states with auto emissions requirements now test using the on board diagnostic connector. Tailpipe sniffers are a thing of the past. In fact, states with emissions testing have eliminated (tailpipe) emissions testing requirements for vehicles without the OBD connector, which are any older than 1996. The computerized test equipment is connected directly to your vehicle and on-line to state computers so the vehicle information is exchanged and test results are automatically posted to the state server. The "testing" includes checking the historical diagnostic data saved in the vehicle computer as well current data, including active or stored CEL codes. In fact, if you disconnect the battery on some vehicles which clears the historical data there's a good chance the vehicle won't "pass" until after it's been driven long enough to collect more data.

I imagine there isn't any opportunity for fraud and corruption with modern emissions testing at the local inspection station. Maybe if it's done inside the DMV office or if you modify your vehicle's engine firmware (or you're driving a Volkswagen). Not sayin I'm advocating the testing, just stating the facts.

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Posted : May 4, 2016 2:03 am
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