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watruw8ing4
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August 14, 2012 3:07 pm  

I've been following this post and have just one question....

WHY has the original poster "scottstx" not chimed in again????
Perhaps because he/she was "caught" from an earlier post on the message board about looking for a pet sitter?

And why is only one dog being "given away". Guess the other 2 are the lucky ones.

Hmmmmmm is right.

1. Why would he chime in again if he immediately gets flamed?
2. Perhaps he is ill or almost broke and was able to rehome the other 2.

Truth is, as suspicious as it seems, we don't know the truth. I'd like the OP to be brave and post again, so we can try to get this dog home or to a new home, safely.


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lily1025
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August 14, 2012 3:22 pm  

i would be careful offering money to take her. someone who needs the money and not the dog could take your offer.
why cant you take her with you?

i totally agree with dixie chick!! the least you can do is NOT offer money!! common sense says anyone could take the $ and then dump the dog. its been done before.


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August 14, 2012 3:41 pm  

The OP asked for help to find his dog a new home. Not much help here only opinions and stories. If you know someone or an organization that might be able help, Let him know. So what if his post is different than his last, things change!


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August 14, 2012 5:43 pm  

thanks Lily for seeing it my way. on this island (or anywhere) people in need of money see a quick fix. $200.00 for taking a poor dog seems like bribery. i am sure intentions were good (or at least i hope so) i could not imagine paying someone to take my dog (s).
hope we hear from him again and see if a happy solution can or has been found.


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August 14, 2012 9:41 pm  

It's a 10 month old Sheppard, it's highly adoptable. Take it to the AWC and donate the $200 to them.

Dog is safe, situation handled. They aren't there to judge anybody either, people leave their pets for a lot of reasons.


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August 14, 2012 10:46 pm  

Wow.... There are clearly a lot of people who are very "passionate" about this post. Kinda weird.. Kinda sad... Very ignorant for the most part. In short, we live in a different country full time now due to the economy, politics and the overall attitude that has been expressed in this post. Taking the dog with us is out of the question unfortunately. FORTUNATELY we were able to find a home for our other two dogs. It has nothing to do with her being an "island mutt" as someone so kindly stated earlier. Our hopes were to give Bikini the same adavantage at finding a forever home as we gave the other two. Clearly the attitude that has been stated in this post has made us come to the conclusion that our option is going to take her to the shelter - our last choice. It's odd that passionate animal lovers decide that their time is spent better degrading people who are trying to make a responsible decision then helping the animals themselves.


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August 14, 2012 11:32 pm  

have you checked with the local vets to see if they know someone who might want the dog


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August 15, 2012 3:10 am  

My apologies. Yes, I have seen vet's offices with plenty of picures and signs. A good place to start. You do have to undestand that you were suspect since the same dogs were looking for a dog sitter earlier on. Guess this is why you got all the flack. My stepdaughter was looking to move to Barbados which would entail having to fly to England and have the dog quarantined for 6 months before she could do that. Fortunately her move didn't work out so she did not have to go through that trial! Good luck!!


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AandA2VI
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August 15, 2012 7:25 am  

Wow.... There are clearly a lot of people who are very "passionate" about this post. Kinda weird.. Kinda sad... Very ignorant for the most part. In short, we live in a different country full time now due to the economy, politics and the overall attitude that has been expressed in this post. Taking the dog with us is out of the question unfortunately. FORTUNATELY we were able to find a home for our other two dogs. It has nothing to do with her being an "island mutt" as someone so kindly stated earlier. Our hopes were to give Bikini the same adavantage at finding a forever home as we gave the other two. Clearly the attitude that has been stated in this post has made us come to the conclusion that our option is going to take her to the shelter - our last choice. It's odd that passionate animal lovers decide that their time is spent better degrading people who are trying to make a responsible decision then helping the animals themselves.

Sorry this ones got me heated..... I don't know you, OP but I'm gonna say it anyways....
Excuses. The economy???? Really??? I am sorry, a "reasonable" decision would have been to NOT get an animal if you can't care for it, for it's entire life. Life DOES change and the things in it do as well but your dogs have no control over what happens. Sorry but it's disgusting to me that you've accumulated 3 dogs only to give them up. I don't care what the excuses is. Not to mention youre leaving them in on an island. Why not spend the 200 and get them to the mainland where they have a higher chance of getting adopted?

On a personal note, I found a stray pit bull puppy when I was 17, lived at home with my folks and had it made. Dad said I couldn't keep the her because she was a pit bull (dumb), guess what? I moved out a week later never moved back home. There was no hard feelings and he swore i couldnt make it but i just couldnt give up a part of who I felt was family. Sadie died in my arms at home peacefully last year after 17 years. I dont regret my decision to move out once, I suffered hardships so that she would have a home always with me. Animals are NOT to be given up in my opinion under ANY circumstances... Other than death of the owner or a physical inability to care for them. I realize many don't see it this way and it's a shame. Someone memtioned their not like children..... Personally I would take a pack of wild dogs over one screaming kid any day of the week.


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August 15, 2012 12:18 pm  

Personally I would take a pack of wild dogs over one screaming kid any day of the week.

I hope you are on birth control.


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August 15, 2012 12:38 pm  

Seriously Folks, Let's not bash people because they are attempting to do the responsible thing. I am glad their other pups were re-homed.
Bikini looks like an awesome pup and deserves a good home so why don't all of the STX posters ask around and see if you can help find her a forever home. No-one likes to have to give up thier pets. The important thing is to help find the pup a good forever home with someone that will love and take good care of her. I am sure someone must know someone that would love such a cutie.

Hey blu4u - Must you always be so negative and rude such as in your comment to AandA2VI, above?
Your comment was quite uncalled for.
You are always the one complainiing about posters bashing people so what gives?
Practice what you preach.
Way too early in the morning to be so grumpy!


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August 15, 2012 1:08 pm  

Lest we forget what a cute sweet girl is in need of a home!


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August 15, 2012 1:14 pm  

Yeah, the attitude of the board? Whatever. You're right, you are so very responsible dumping your dogs. I hope you donated that $200 you were offering to the AWC when you gave them your dog BTW.


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August 15, 2012 1:41 pm  

I am sure someone must know someone that would love such a cutie.

That's the problem--so many people think "oh, someone will adopt her/love her." But most of the time, that is not the case...try working at the shelter to see how many animals get put to sleep because someone would love a puppy. It's really hard to find a home for a grown dog too (the older dogs languish at the shelter often for months, because people want puppies). I've been rehabbing/ fostering a stray dog since April and trying to find him a home. He's really cute too, so lovable, but with so many people leaving island its been really hard to find him a home. I have the option of sending him to the states to a no-kill shelter, but I don't want him to go through the experience of a shelter after doing so well in a home. And what is my first question to someone who may be interested in him? If you leave island, what will you do with him? If "take him with me, no matter what" is not the immediate answer, no dog. So no furr-ever home for him yet. But guess what, even with 4 other dogs, I made a commitment to him the moment I picked him up. If he doesn't find a home, he stays with me. Yes having five dogs limits my ability to move around the world. But I made that decision when I adopted all of them. And moving pets aorund the world is not as difficult as one thinks. Complicated yes, but possible. Friends of mine have moved from STX to Hawaii with animals, STX to CHINA!!! with a 100+lb dog, even to the Middle East with 2 cats. Where there is a will, there is a way.

I hope Bikini finds a home, but for every Bikini that finds a home, 20 more are put to sleep.


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August 15, 2012 2:15 pm  

Hey blu4u - Must you always be so negative and rude such as in your comment to AandA2VI, above?
Your comment was quite uncalled for.
You are always the one complainiing about posters bashing people so what gives?
Practice what you preach.
Way too early in the morning to be so grumpy!

I don't believe that was a bash or uncalled for or grumpy. Simply a statement.
Anyone preferring a pack of wild dogs to one child should heed the advice because unlike dogs, you can't leave your baby while you run to the store real quick or to do anything else for that matter, no matter how badly you may need a break.

It seems like everyone is having knee jerk reactions to single posts without looking at the thread as a whole.

Can we put everything aside to find Bikini a home? In the end that's all that matters.

There's enough negativity in a few threads right now to choke an elephant.


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August 15, 2012 3:04 pm  

I am sure someone must know someone that would love such a cutie.

I hope Bikini finds a home, but for every Bikini that finds a home, 20 more are put to sleep.

I quite agree. I have been to our STT shelter, have volunteered, donate $ and flea market items, regularly, as well as been a past board member. I do realize how many animals get put to sleep because there are not enough homes for these wonderful animals to go around.
It is quite depressing.

I have had 5 dogs at one time and my youngest pup is now a 2yr. old female mix that I rescued when she was a flea ridden, tick and worm infested, scrawny, scraggly, 5 week old puppy. Hershey was not the cutest puppy in the world but I had just lost one dog recently, had room and love to go around for another. It helped that the 2 - 100 and 120 lb. doggies were very accepting of her and allowed her to crawl all over them as well as let her chew on them to her heart's content as did the others.

Please spay and neuter your pets and encourage those you know to do the same.
That's just one reason the SNIPS program is so great. Contributions help towards low cost spay and neuter events.
The last event at Bolongo at which I volunteered spayed and neutered 71 cats and small dogs in 1 day!

Let's all keep our fingers crossed and ask around for Bikini to find a good home.
That's all we can do. Blaming owners for circumstances beyond their control is pointless.


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AandA2VI
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August 15, 2012 6:53 pm  

Personally I would take a pack of wild dogs over one screaming kid any day of the week.

I hope you are on birth control.

A bit on the personal side but you bet you're ass I am. no kids for me, ever, thank god!! I still stand by my comment that i would take a pack over a screaming kid.

I am like the LEAST negative person ever. I read the whole thread and still after thinking about it for a few hours was irritated enough to come back and post. To ME animals are family, no matter what. it's funny to me, everyone says its the "right thing to do". Wouldn't the "right" thing to do would have been to not get 3 dogs if you couldn't commit to them? Didn't people learn this lesson of responsibility with pets when they were growing up or was that just my parents???

I wish Bikini all the luck and feel so bad for her from my soul. I hope that she finds a home.


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August 16, 2012 12:08 am  

A, It must be empowering to know, with 100% certainty, that your coomplete future--all the days of your life, all the cricumstances which may impact you, your livelyhood, your health and the health of your family (pets only)--will remain frimly under your control for ever and ever and ever. I wish I possesed such clarivoent gifts. And bet many of your future neighbors do too.


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August 16, 2012 12:34 am  

Before any dog or cat is adopted from the Humane Society. The pet should already be spayed or neutered, so the new owner(s) don't have to worry about it. It should be a given.


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Jamison
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August 16, 2012 3:03 am  

A, It must be empowering to know, with 100% certainty, that your coomplete future--all the days of your life, all the cricumstances which may impact you, your livelyhood, your health and the health of your family (pets only)--will remain frimly under your control for ever and ever and ever. I wish I possesed such clarivoent gifts. And bet many of your future neighbors do too.

It's not magic. I'm my dogs only family. Her fate is mine. Better or worse. That's what bringing a pet into your life means. If it doesn't, don't get one. Don't get a dog to tie in your yard or because you're lonely. Selfish acts are acts of losers, when it effects other living things.


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August 16, 2012 4:02 am  

A, It must be empowering to know, with 100% certainty, that your coomplete future--all the days of your life, all the cricumstances which may impact you, your livelyhood, your health and the health of your family (pets only)--will remain frimly under your control for ever and ever and ever. I wish I possesed such clarivoent gifts. And bet many of your future neighbors do too.

There you go again!


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AandA2VI
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August 16, 2012 4:24 am  

Alana its funny isn't it, like a backwards insult? Kinda weird.

Jamison summed up my feelings exactly. I literally couldn't have said it better.

I wonder if their taking their car to the new place, furniture? Just wondering what rank the pets are at.

Blu: I got love for ya regardless. I've enjoyed your posts. I can not yield on this. It's my FIRM belief that YOU make your destiny. Life may take you in an unexpected direction but ultimately one you have the control of your actions. Giving up a family member I just think is wrong. I realize not everyone thinks this way.... If they did, pounds and the millions of pets put down each year wouldn't exist.


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blu4u
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August 16, 2012 5:44 am  

OK
A, print out your comments and read them again in five years, ten years, twenty years. Make sure to store in safe water proof zio lock bag. You never know what lingers off the horizon.

I suppose, if you live your life totally for yourself and your pets (which you, as master, control) then you may have a darn good chance making your own destiny. But on the other hand, if you choose to live in communty of people (human family, friends, bosses who have free will and you are not master) then, I think, it's fair to say you will encounter situations which are beyond your imediate control--forcing un expected course adjustments to said desitny. Making hard choices in dificult situations is never fun. But it is part of living as a grown-up. Positive isn't walking round with big smile and pertending ever liitill tin gonna be ok. It's preforming positive actions to efect the world around you. Individual promiss can only be achieved through life in community. .

You are moving to small island where most of the population live a modest life and depend upon each other. Compassion goes along way around here, especially in times of crisis. Strangers will go out of ther way to help you (didn't you have such an experience on your PMV) Now this stranger needs help placing the family pet. The compassionate recation is to help not comdem.

Your comments presume that the poster wants to give up the family pet. The post states that they are moving aborad--which almost always requires quairintine. Pets die or become gravely ill in quaritine frequently.Could you imagine a ten month old puupy in create for 3 months. The dog would never be the same. Why not give the dog a better life with another family, then selfishly subject it to quartine. Not evey situation fits into nice neat box.

I hope that you'll begin to understand the concept of commasion inside comunity as you adjust to life on STX. In a wierd way i think you will. You hold an artisitic talent and unique vision. You already know not everybody "sees" from the same prespective. i don't think your selfish. The VI has a way grabbing your soul and shaving of the edges. You'll see.

BTW, I am all for spay and nutere. I love my dog, I call him my change of life baby. I swear if he smelt different I'd be lactating. We rescued/kidnapped him along with his five sibling from my nieghbor who refuses to spay his dog.I feel for any one who is forced by circumstance beyond thier control to give up a pet and pray I am never faced with that choice.


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August 16, 2012 12:18 pm  

Your comments presume that the poster wants to give up the family pet. The post states that they are moving aborad--which almost always requires quairintine. Pets die or become gravely ill in quaritine frequently.Could you imagine a ten month old puupy in create for 3 months. The dog would never be the same. Why not give the dog a better life with another family, then selfishly subject it to quartine. Not evey situation fits into nice neat box.

Actually, most countries do not require quarantine anymore--even the UK. For the UK, all you need now is an up to date rabies shot, microchip and a health certificate (if coming from a country like the US). Same with most of Europe. And the thing with quarantine, its actually rather the same conditions as being in a shelter. The dog gets a very small run, limited time outside (if at all), limited human interaction. Both situations are going to be difficult for the dog. And some dogs do not do well in those types of environments--they get "cage crazy" which manifests in several different ways.

Also, while assumptions shouldn't be made about the OP and his situation, over the last few months as people leave island, I've encountered more people with mi-information about moving their pets off island. Some people just don't know the range of options available to them. They just assume they have to leave the dog here. But once they find out the possibilities, they make plans and take their dog. And then there are other people that just don't want to deal with the "hassle" of moving with the dogs. Those are the type of people that shouldn't have made a commitment in the first place. Maybe we are all a little sensitive recently to the latter?


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August 16, 2012 1:00 pm  

Just have to shake my head at all the moralizing going on in this thread and the rotten comments being made to and about the OP. Whatever he says or explains isn't going to appease the self-righteous chest-thumpers - and notice how so many of them offered to either take the pup or help find her a home?

The OP came to this forum in all good faith to seek help dealing with a situation and for the most part has been met with derision. I sincerely hope that all of you who say you would NEVER EVER give a pet away aren't ever faced with exactly that situation. The solution is don't ever have a pet.

I wonder how many of you moralizers were around in the aftermath of hurricane Marilyn in 1995. When flights resumed, people who'd lost everything descended upon the airport en masse to "get out of Dodge" and many, many people simply just let their dogs out around the airport to run free. It was a heart-rending sight which was seen throughout St Thomas as people simply fled the island and left their pets behind to fend for themselves. Thump your chests about THAT but don't leap on someone like the OP who comes to the forum with a legitimate request. He wasn't looking for an opinion, he was looking for help.


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