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rotorhead
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Rowdy802:
Can't find that ABR article in the Virgin Island Daily News on-line.
Any links available?

Here is an article in the VI Consortium
http://viconsortium.com/featured/abrvi-sues-arclight-for-stealing-hovensa-deal/

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Posted : November 18, 2015 8:06 pm
singlefin
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What a mess.

Thanks for the link rotorhead.

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Posted : November 19, 2015 1:13 am
Rowdy802
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Rowdy802:
Can't find that ABR article in the Virgin Island Daily News on-line.
Any links available?

Sorry. It wasn't online. I purchased the newspaper. But Rotorhead's article offers similar information.

The latest news is that the VI Government has a "favorite", Arclight, to be the one selected... But the judge has to approve it..

ABR's original offer was, by a longshot, the best compromise. I guess the senators know "best"...

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Posted : November 19, 2015 9:30 am
Rowdy802
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"Ex-HOVENSA suitor Suing ArcLight Capital"

http://virginislandsdailynews.com/news/ex-hovensa-suitor-suing-arclight-capital-1.1972718

"Plaskett Asking to Meet with Hess Executive about HOVENSA"

http://stcroixsource.com/content/news/local-news/2015/11/18/plaskett-asking-meet-hess-executive-about-hovensa

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Posted : November 19, 2015 10:37 am
Rowdy802
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V.I. appears to have favorite in HOVENSA sale.

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Posted : November 19, 2015 3:16 pm
Bombi
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Sold?

https://cases.primeclerk.com/hovensa/Home-DownloadPDF?id1=MjI0Nzg3&id2=0

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Posted : November 19, 2015 8:12 pm
vicanuck
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Looks like we have a winner!

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Posted : November 19, 2015 10:59 pm
jones_st.croix
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Docket #345 shows that the court will meet again on December 17th to continue the discussion. The agenda for that date has not been released yet. There will be a lot of news to follow I'm sure on why it's pushed back now.

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Topic starter Posted : November 19, 2015 11:01 pm
Alana33
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Now, let's see what concessions they want and how well that will fly.

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Posted : November 19, 2015 11:04 pm
jones_st.croix
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A little more info here. http://www.argusmedia.com/pages/NewsBody.aspx?id=1140055&menu=yes

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Topic starter Posted : November 19, 2015 11:25 pm
singlefin
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Perhaps ABR's case is effecting a final decision?
By December ABR may be able to find a better source of financial backing.

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Posted : November 20, 2015 12:31 am
CruzanIron
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Sold?

https://cases.primeclerk.com/hovensa/Home-DownloadPDF?id1=MjI0Nzg3&id2=0/blockquote >

No

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Posted : November 20, 2015 2:46 am
Rowdy802
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Posted : November 20, 2015 10:20 am
Rowdy802
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P.S. Zoom browser page to 200% and it will be easy to read it.

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Posted : November 20, 2015 10:22 am
Alana33
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beckyhartung
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The Consortium reported that Mapp refused to meet with Buckeye, so how, now, can he testify as to why Arclight's deal is better than theirs?

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Posted : November 20, 2015 10:39 am
vicanuck
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Mapp just couldn't resist putting his hands in the cookie jar. Couldn't he at least wait until the ink had dried on a deal before trying to muscle in and grab his share?

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Posted : November 20, 2015 11:20 am
Alana33
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Come on, vicanuck!
That would be like trying to keep a bee from honey.
By now, I think we all know where Monarch Mapp's interest lies.

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Posted : November 20, 2015 12:10 pm
Beeski
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I would like to think that the Governor is negotiating the best possible outcome for the VI, jobs plus cash. Buckeye's deal must not be as good for the VI as Arclights, so they are crying foul. If Buckeye promised more jobs and more $$ for the GVI, then I am sure our Governor would "collude" with them instead of Arclight.

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Posted : November 20, 2015 2:24 pm
singlefin
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345 million + 20 million into the PENSION FUND
VS.
190 million +20 million for closing costs.

Map's response refers to what's best for the people of the Virgin Islands. Perhaps he's referring to how the VI government has managed GERS and how not funding pensions is in the best intrested of the people.

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Posted : November 20, 2015 2:59 pm
ms411
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I would like to think that the Governor is negotiating the best possible outcome for the VI, jobs plus cash. Buckeye's deal must not be as good for the VI as Arclights, so they are crying foul. If Buckeye promised more jobs and more $$ for the GVI, then I am sure our Governor would "collude" with them instead of Arclight.

This is the VI - not Utopia. Even those that "promise" jobs usually don't deliver the promised number. Automation and market forces determine the number of employees - not a contract.

Mapp can talk a good game but seldom delivers.

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Posted : November 20, 2015 3:26 pm
CruzanIron
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Notice how they want the tax lawsuit dropped? Because they know they will lose that one in court.

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Posted : November 20, 2015 4:28 pm
janeinstx
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https://cases.primeclerk.com/hovensa/Home-DownloadPDF?id1=MjI1MzA2&id2=0

Long but interesting read.

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Posted : November 20, 2015 9:11 pm
beckyhartung
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buckeye bid $390m, where upto $240m could go to the GVI. Buckeye just didn't have a prior agreement with the GVI because the GVI would not entertainany deals.

ArcLight bid a total of $210m, where a potential contribution of $110m of that amount goes to the GVI.

i am interested in this evidence of the side deals.

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Posted : November 21, 2015 3:29 am
monogram
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Notice how they want the tax lawsuit dropped? Because they know they will lose that one in court.

Well when you let Mapp (a community college alumnus) lead litigation and direct the attorney general's office...

Pretty fascinating how livid the creditors are about Mapp's collusion. They are the only party here with a legitimate interest in selecting the most financially-sound purchaser. Mapp is a politician (with political and personal interests), and Hess has other countervailing interests as well. Creditors simply want a purchaser that will be sound enough to pay. In that sense, they are credible in their assessment that this is not the best deal and that there is collusion.

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Posted : November 21, 2015 4:41 am
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