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ms411
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December 30, 2014 9:18 pm  

I moved here from California Bay Area. Am missing the liberalism of CA, but it was too cold.

Has anybody lived in both Key West and VI who can give insight?

Thanks!


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December 31, 2014 12:27 am  

Liberalism of the Bay area? I remember folks in the bay area campaigning for Goldwater and (the best president ever) Ronald Reagan. Not sure what part of the bay area you are from... 😉


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December 31, 2014 10:51 am  

do you want to debate the liberalism of the two areas or in general what it is like to live in the two areas?


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December 31, 2014 11:21 am  

The VI is probably more liberal than CA. Despite the fact that we have laws, very few are enforced, which is not necessarily a bad thing.


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December 31, 2014 11:25 am  

We left the "Peoples Republic of California" for the reason you want to return.

Had enough of Jerry Brown and the domination of the liberal legislature.

CD


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December 31, 2014 3:52 pm  

Key West is nice. Real Estate is extremely expensive there. Not to mention evacuating in event of hurricanes but the cost of living is much less. Not sure about cost of rentals as the Keys are a much desired location. Sure they have an "off season" just like we do but, at least, you don't have to take a plane to get to the mainland.

I love the Bay area and Sausalito, There is so much to do there.
I go ballooning, sailing, kayaking, hiking, salmon fishing, camping, etc., when I visit friend's there. Love it!


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Scubadoo
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January 1, 2015 4:27 am  

They drop a live drag queen in a giant stiletto shoe for New Year's Eve in Key West if that gives you any idea. Go Conch Republic.


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January 1, 2015 4:59 am  

We left the "Peoples Republic of California" for the reason you want to return.

Had enough of Jerry Brown and the domination of the liberal legislature.

CD

California born & raised but we are out for the same reasons. Tired of the few paying for the many. Looking to either VI or Florida depending on my wife's job opportunities.


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January 1, 2015 11:08 am  

since the original op has never chimed back in, i will give my thought on the living situations of marathon/st croix-similar to key west/stt.

i lived on marathon for 3 perfect years. i seriously loved every moment of it. it has the nice small town feel. you get to meet lots of people ( i think it was easier there ) if you need to, you can DRIVE not FLY to actually go to a mall for those that need that once every 3 month experience. there was always something to do. i thought the water was better. the marine patrol is serious about its laws-meaning you do get busted for catching shorts.. living in marathon-you were only an hour away from key west, two + from miami. it was really the best of both worlds. the weather was much like ours but you could afford to run your air conditioner. the food was plentiful and cheaper than here.much easier and cheaper to visit family. there is a farmers market of sorts on big pine. lots of good food at restaurants. barracuda comes to mind as one of the better ones. crime is less there, you have your petty crimes but the more serious crimes are hardly at all. here you count the number of murders each year-there they count the number of car fatalities on the 18 mile stretch. and that is much less than our murders here. you can go to city data to find out more stats. the job market is not plentiful but neither is it here. . things you can not get shipped here you can there . target and kohls comes to mind. it is island living with bridges off to the mainland. best of both worlds seriously. there are three hospitals-key largo, marathon and key west. evacuations are nothing because they have the traffic lights off and they do it in sections. starting with key west. oh and they have boars head lunch meat ( the best ) and the publix grocery store-near thanksgiving has an open house where you get to eat a small thanksgiving dinner walking from station to station.

so if the op ever comes back, ask more questions


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January 1, 2015 11:24 am  

Sounds good to me!


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January 1, 2015 2:51 pm  

Any good beaches on Marathon? Only the one man-made beach on Key West.


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January 1, 2015 7:53 pm  

there is sombrero. but you have to remember that they keys are a reef. there are not beaches like here. bahia honda has a beach. but most people just get in there boat and go out a short bit. the water is pretty shallow up close


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January 3, 2015 11:16 am  

We left the "Peoples Republic of California" for the reason you want to return.

Had enough of Jerry Brown and the domination of the liberal legislature.

CD

Agree but it's worse here in the VI. A few residents and the U.S. government pays for everyone else here.

If the majority of the population in the U.S. knew how much of their tax contributions were squandered by the VI government, there would be a revolution......well, probably not as no one is paying any attention to what is going on.

WErn2itall, don't move here unless you are looking for ultra liberalism. California would be a mild alternative to this.


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January 3, 2015 12:48 pm  

1. ...well, probably not as no one is paying any attention to what is going on.

2. WErn2itall, don't move here unless you are looking for ultra liberalism. .

With all due respect, "nonsense" to both points.


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January 3, 2015 4:55 pm  

1. ...well, probably not as no one is paying any attention to what is going on.

2. WErn2itall, don't move here unless you are looking for ultra liberalism. .

With all due respect, "nonsense" to both points.

No offense taken OldTart!

Sorry but it's not nonsense!

First of all, 9 out of 10 people don't have a clue as to where the VI is or that it is a territory of the U.S. If they knew that the VI siphoned off millions of $ annually to squander, they would revolt! Most of the millennia's could not tell you who the POTUS is....even though they voted for him.

Secondly, this is documented as one of the most LIBERAL locals in the country. This is a welfare state that truly benefits from all of the liberal entitlements and viewpoints.
Even Ms. Christianson brags about the 39% of 'her' people who collect SNAP benefits.
Now, that is something to be really proud about!


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January 3, 2015 8:00 pm  

The VI is the epitome of what Democrats want.

Unfortunately, they refuse to accept the results of what they have created.


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January 3, 2015 10:04 pm  

A few things..
1. What kind of liberalism are you talking about? Key West itself is definitely more socially liberal.
2. Key West is still part of Florida run by Fuhrer Scott
3. Unless you have a boat the Keys can be boring imo
4. I like the fact you can have your own
Adventures here

Now on to the comments. This will be my last post on this forum. I am tired of reading the negativity and am going to live a positive life. This place helped me when I was thinking about making the move and once I did and I am forever grateful.

These comments on here demonize and cast aspersions on the poor. It is ridiculous. 80% plus of the "non poor" in this country are a few paychecks from being there. This has been the only masterful strategy to come from the GOP. Have people hate and blame the poor.

Here are a couple of things:
Would you be happier if Ms. Christensen had said 39% of my constituents died of malnutrition?
Since corporations are now people maybe they should start paying taxes like people?
Why is everyone so worried about other people? Take care of your own lives. Worry about what goes on inside your walls.
The "democratic plan"? You mean biggest gdp gains in decades? Low gas prices? Inflation under control? Job market steadily improving? Record high DJI?
You are angry about "paying for others" yet are opposed to higher wage laws. Ok.

Life is too short for this. Enjoy what you have. Don't worry about what others do or have. Again thank you all for the help in the past.

Mark


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January 4, 2015 12:15 am  

I always like when someone uses Nazi references to try and prove a point...


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Alana33
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January 4, 2015 12:45 am  

Sorry to see you go, Mark.
Have a great island life! :@)


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January 4, 2015 1:26 am  

@Spartygrad95:

A) Congrats on the huge Cotton Bowl comeback win. It pained me a bit personally to root for you guys and tOSU on the same day but I did root and what a game,
B) Please don't leave THIS PAGE. You have a lot to offer back to prospective new people just like others helped you when moving here. If you just resolve to never even look 'under the coconut tree' you will avoid all the bitterness and angst that page brings while still getting the good parts that come with being part of the VIMC community.

Think about it. Please. Would hate to see you go here.


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Alana33
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January 4, 2015 2:54 am  

The Keys have1700 islands. You can probably find one that suits you! http://www.escape-floridakeys.com/Florida-Keys-Geography.aspx


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TommySTX
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January 5, 2015 7:21 pm  

Sparty,

Well said. I hope to run into more people like you living here.


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DonExodus
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January 6, 2015 11:13 pm  

The VI is the epitome of what Democrats want.

Are you referring to our crazy high taxes here, intrusive government, liberal drug policy, friendly attitudes towards homosexuals, quality education, or progressive stance on clean energy?

/s


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speee1dy
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January 7, 2015 10:55 am  

lol, don


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IslandHops
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January 7, 2015 12:47 pm  

Back to the topic - Key West vs. St. Thomas.

Lets see - One is an overcrowded tropical vacation spot full of drunken debauchery and the other, well .....8-)


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