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April 26, 2015 9:42 am  

i wonder if in a medical dosage such as you described if it would help the joint pain i suffer from?


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April 26, 2015 10:22 am  

i wonder if in a medical dosage such as you described if it would help the joint pain i suffer from?

This article is one of many which offers the pros and cons:

http://medicalmarijuana.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=000131


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April 26, 2015 10:31 am  

I do not partake, however, the game is lost. Just conceded defeat and legalize personal use. It's no worse than alcohol or tobacco. Alternately, ban those as well. See how that goes. Ever see the movie Escape from New York? You'll need a prison that big if you ban alcohol and tobacco. The name's Plissken


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April 26, 2015 11:52 am  

I do not partake, however, the game is lost. Just conceded defeat and legalize personal use. It's no worse than alcohol or tobacco. Alternately, ban those as well. See how that goes. Ever see the movie Escape from New York? You'll need a prison that big if you ban alcohol and tobacco. The name's Plissken

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April 26, 2015 12:39 pm  

Speee1dy - I was extremely skeptical at first. A friend recommended that I try it - "nothing to lose". I did - it worked. More than any pill or potion put forward by my doctors over the past 5 years. The only thing I didn't like is the high feeling. When I took a dose that eliminated 80% of my pain (something Doctors have never been able to achieve) I felt too high for my personal taste. So I take a small dose and get some relief.

I am now a big supporter of legalization. I can say first hand that this plant makes a difference with chronic pain and more.
My dog has cancer (yes, she is being treated by a Vet but is 10 years old and I won't put her through chemo). I have started to give her butter infused with the cannabis oil on her food. Wow - what a difference in her! She plays with our other dog now and can walk up the stairs without stopping. We can tell she feels better and is acting like her "old self" again. It is amazing the difference it makes!

I believe there are many things that can be improved or even cured by this plant. It needs to be legal so it can be tested and proper doses/usage determined.


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April 26, 2015 12:42 pm  

Program on CNN tonight
Dish TV channel 200 @10PM
High Profits
Cannabis meets Capitalism.
For those interested.

Divinggirl, thanks for sharing your story.
Happy both you and pup are better with its use
I'm all for legalized medical use.
On the fence for legalized recreational use.

Where in the world can you legally smoke cannabis?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/29834450/where-in-the-world-can-you-legally-smoke-cannabis


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April 26, 2015 1:47 pm  

Here are my thoughts on this subject coming from a background of 3 years as a Special Agent, FBI, 15 years as a state prosecutor, and 19 years as a trial court judge. Having dealt extensively with marijuana issues during all of that time, I strongly support the legalization of marijuana for all purposes, not just medical.

Law enforcement efforts against marijuana consume an inordinate amount of scarce resources available to the legal system for what is essentially a victimless crime. In my state (Kentucky) we spend 60-70 percent of the court system's resources on marijuana related crimes. Ridiculous. And remember, Kentucky is a state that prides itself on being a leading producer of tobacco and alcohol products, along with legalized gambling (horse racing). We are a Sin state with a capital S.

I can think of no valid arguments against the use of medical marijuana, and quite frankly, imho, marijuana use is no worse than smoking a cigarette or drinking a beer or shot of bourbon. In addition, the well-to-do already self-medicate themselves via the aid of friendly physicians.

Governments need to stop this insane persecution of marijuana and instead devote their resources where they are really needed. The continued criminalization of marijuana makes no sense to me whatsoever. The benefits of decriminalization are obvious: 1) eliminates undue law enforcement burden and makes resources available to deal with serious crime; 2) new opportunities for economic growth and tax revenues for government, including tourism benefits; and 3) eliminates the need to make criminals out of so many of our young people. Finally, the benefits of medical marijuana will be available without the worry or shame of using it.

Disclaimer: I have never used an illegal drug, or even smoked a cigarette. I do enjoy a nightly round of bourbon, however (my drug of choice).


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April 26, 2015 8:48 pm  

thank you divinggirl, for your honest and personal story. i have an autoimmune disease that makes my joints ache every single day. some days are worse than others, but like you i do not want to get high. i do not drink either. sometimes i take up to 6 aleve a day. and it still does not even cut the pain by much.


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April 26, 2015 10:42 pm  

Sorry to hear you 2 are suffering. Hopefully somebody will find a non addictive pain relief soon.


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April 26, 2015 11:03 pm  

thank you divinggirl, for your honest and personal story. i have an autoimmune disease that makes my joints ache every single day. some days are worse than others, but like you i do not want to get high. i do not drink either. sometimes i take up to 6 aleve a day. and it still does not even cut the pain by much.

Just want you to be safe so unless an MD told you to take 6 Aleve a day,.......that may be way too high a dose,....depending on total milligrams per day.


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April 27, 2015 6:18 am  

thank you divinggirl, for your honest and personal story. i have an autoimmune disease that makes my joints ache every single day. some days are worse than others, but like you i do not want to get high. i do not drink either. sometimes i take up to 6 aleve a day. and it still does not even cut the pain by much.

Just want you to be safe so unless an MD told you to take 6 Aleve a day,.......that may be way too high a dose,....depending on total milligrams per day.

Dosage for adults and children 12 years and older: Take 1 Aleve capsule or tablet every 8 to 12 hours while symptoms last. For the first dose you may take 2 capsules or tablets within the first hour. Do not exceed 2 capsules or tablets in any 8 to 12 hour period - do not exceed 3 capsules or tablets in a 24-hour period.

http://www.drugs.com/aleve.html


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April 27, 2015 10:49 am  

thank you ms411 and pdmargie. i do appreciate the concern. i know i should not take that dosage and it is not every day i take that, just on the really bad days. maybe once or twice a month. usually i just deal with it.

it was suggested that Epsom salt baths might help. i need to try that


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April 27, 2015 11:41 am  

Speee1dy,

Cronic pain from such things as fibromyalgia and rhumatoid arthritis , is one of the more common things that Cannabis is perscribed for.

There is another thing to keep in mind when it comes to medicinal usage.... The two major benefical parts to Cannabis when looking at medicial usage are THC and Cannibidols. THC is the part that everyone knows about, its the component of the plant that gets you high. Cannibidol are compounds that have a wide range of benefits medicinally. It is possible to have a strain high in CBDs but low in THC and vice versa. Depending on what you are trying to treat would determine what ratio of THC/CBD you would look for.

During the medicinal hearing in STX there was a person that testified who had cronic arthritis. She was taking upwards of 200 mg of OxyContin a day for pain. In addition to the fact that Oxy was making her feel like a zombie, it wasnt working to help with the pain. Her daughter suggested Cannabis and she was in tears as she described what a difference it has made. She felt she got her life back.


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April 27, 2015 11:48 am  

There is some really good information coming out of this thread. Good work people.


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April 27, 2015 12:12 pm  

During the medicinal hearing in STX there was a person that testified who had cronic arthritis. She was taking upwards of 200 mg of OxyContin a day for pain. In addition to the fact that Oxy was making her feel like a zombie, it wasnt working to help with the pain. Her daughter suggested Cannabis and she was in tears as she described what a difference it has made. She felt she got her life back.

I've been in constant pain for almost 4 years after a fall. Going to Florida soon for a major surgery fix. Quickly ditched all the Oxy and similar drugs initially prescribed for pain because they just sent me to sleep (and made me stupid) and have relied on ibuprofen while also in the last year discovered that MJ is an excellent pain reliever. I won't truly get my life back until I have surgery but in the meantime I'm just thrilled that MJ helps me deal with day to day living without the (questionable) "help" of narcotics.


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April 27, 2015 4:51 pm  

sttanon. thank you for good info. if there were not the possibility of drug testing, i would go for what you suggested.


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April 27, 2015 8:00 pm  

sttanon. thank you for good info. if there were not the possibility of drug testing, i would go for what you suggested.

Speee1dy,

Thanks, that is why in part I started this thread. To share factual information in the hopes it will help people become better informed. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I hope that the opinion is based on actual fact not a hundred years of hypocracy and propaganda


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April 28, 2015 12:45 am  

Since I started the thread and haven't really posted yet guess it is time to...:-)

I am very glad to see that people with medical issues post about how cannabis has helped them with ailments and with luck and work the referendum that was passed on the ballot here in November will be law and we can get people in the VI a treatment option that is not on street corners........

STXdreamer, thank you so much for your post !!! It is nice to see people that have been involved on the other side of the fence so to speak share their views in saying that prohibition is a long failed vision.

For those that are against recreational usage, why ?


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April 28, 2015 4:21 pm  

Cannabis has been used medicinally for over 5,000 years and was widely available in the US until the Reefer Madness movement was begun by paper, oil and railroad barons who saw hemp as a threat to their businesses.
I have the State of Maine's approval to treat Multiple Sclerosis with it. I was on an injection drug that cost $5K per month. The label stated that they weren't sure how or why it worked but proved effective about 20% in trials. The side effects were unpleasant. I quit it and move to an alternative therapy, diet, Ayurvedic medicine, mindfulness and Cannabis. My last MRI showed "no evidence of new disease". I also use a lot of herbs and spices as supplements and cooking. For inflammation I use Tumeric and Ashwaghanda.
Maine has the best MMJ law in my opinion. Each patient can have 6 mature plants and 6 little or a caregiver can grow for them. There may be a few dispensaries but there is not a lot of big MJ business. It's mostly people helping people, no tax, very little gov't involvement that creates community.
Yes CO makes big $ but look at the size of the population and their income. I just hope reason prevails.


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April 29, 2015 6:03 pm  

Maine has the best MMJ law in my opinion. Each patient can have 6 mature plants and 6 little or a caregiver can grow for them. There may be a few dispensaries but there is not a lot of big MJ business. It's mostly people helping people, no tax, very little gov't involvement that creates community.

The proposed wording for the law here in the VI has provisions for caregiver growing as well. I have read Maine's law and it is up there as one of the best, by far and away NJ's is one of the worst to the point that it changes very little. Gov. Christie doesn't want to hear about benefits and has gone on record that if he were elected president (SHUDDER) he would reverse the current federal stance.

Yes CO makes big $ but look at the size of the population and their income. I just hope reason prevails.

There is no doubt that legalization has created MJ tourism in Colorado as it would here as well. I have lost count how many times I have been asked by tourists where they can procure. To this day I have not "hooked" anyone up, but I have warned them about places to stay away from in their quest. In that respect I would rather see them be able to goto a safe and controlled location such as in Colorado or Washington than to areas of the island of dubious safety where they could get ripped off or worse,


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May 3, 2015 3:51 pm  

I agree with everything stxdreamer said. Spending tax dollars for incarceration for mj use is such a waste of resources. Of course incarceration has many more issues but that's a different conversation.
I am fortunate to live in CO where I can get medicinal mj. It helps me way more than other things I have tried for joint pain. What I use is high in CBD's and low in THC, so I don't really get high. I took oxycontin after being thrown by a horse - broke many bones - couldn't wait to get off of it.
MJ does not have the side effects of even OTC drugs such as ibuprofin not to mention drugs like Lyrica.
Interesting conversation.


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