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and so lizard who's paying for your health benefits?

Posted : September 16, 2009 1:46 pm
Trusted Member

All your personalities and the rest of the tax payers in the USA, Part of my retirement package for 33 years of service to this Great Nation!

Posted : September 16, 2009 1:54 pm

ah so you're sucking on the tit of america,why do you deserve it, killing babies in vietnam does'ntc ount

Posted : September 16, 2009 2:07 pm

You're over the line, trw. The attention seeking is getting real old.

Posted : September 16, 2009 2:10 pm

ah trade it's nothing to do withattention seeking it has every thin to do with , doinmg the right thing

Posted : September 16, 2009 2:19 pm

Uh-huh. *-)

Posted : September 16, 2009 2:21 pm
Trusted Member

Not that you would understand but "all "who served paid income tax on what we earned, we worked longer hours than most and not under the best of circumstances. The benefits that we earned have eroded on a yearly basis with congressional budget restraints and cuts. So for you arm chair quarter backs that think that over fifty five thousand American lives and two million wounded plus the other millions that served were baby killers you need real help. We who served need not apologize.

Posted : September 16, 2009 3:03 pm
Trusted Member

So now we're talking SS? This is a system my generation is paying into but one I likely won't see the benefit from. I would be nice if they did some reform to SS and Medicare/Medicade. Before trying to tackle a whole new system. There are so many that don't prepare anything for retirement, that these really need to be addressed first. Especially with the motherlode of the baby boomers all retiring.

Posted : September 16, 2009 3:25 pm
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Lizard we may not agree on everything but I would certainly agree you earned your health care and I thank you for your service.(tu)

Posted : September 16, 2009 3:28 pm

Posted : September 24, 2009 3:20 am

* United Health Group
CEO: William W McGuire
2005: 124.8 mil
5-year: 342 mil

* Forest Labs
CEO: Howard Solomon
2005: 92.1 mil
5-year: 295 mil

* Caremark Rx
CEO: Edwin M Crawford
2005: 77.9 mil
5-year: 93.6 mil

* Abbott Lab
CEO: Miles White
2005: 26.2 mil
5-year: 25.8 mil

* Aetna
CEO: John Rowe
2005: 22.1 mil
5-year:57.8 mil

* Amgen
CEO: Kevin Sharer
2005:5.7 mil
5-year:59.5 mil

* Bectin-Dickinson
CEO: Edwin Ludwig
2005: 10 mil
5-year:18 mil

* Boston Scientific
2005:38.1 mil
5-year:45 mil

* Cardinal Health
CEO: James Tobin
2005:1.1 mil
5-year:33.5 mil

* Cigna
CEO: H. Edward Hanway
2005:13.3 mil
5-year:62.8 mil

* Genzyme
CEO: Henri Termeer
2005: 19 mil
5-year:60.7 mil

* Humana
CEO: Michael McAllister
2005:2.3 mil
5-year:12.9 mil

* Johnson & Johnson
CEO: William Weldon
2005:6.1 mil
5-year:19.7 mil

* Laboratory Corp America
CEO: Thomas MacMahon
2005:7.9 mil
5-year:41.8 mil

* Eli Lilly
CEO: Sidney Taurel
2005:7.2 mil
5-year:37.9 mil

* McKesson
CEO: John Hammergen
2005: 13.4 mil
5-year:31.2 mil

* Medtronic
CEO: Arthur Collins
2005: 4.7 mil
5-year:39 mil

* Merck Raymond Gilmartin
2005: 37.8 mil
5-year:49.6 mil

* PacifiCare Health
CEO: Howard Phanstiel
2005: 3.4 mil
5-year: 8.5 mil

* Pfizer
CEO: Henry McKinnell
2005: 14 mil
5-year: 74 mil

* Well Choice
CEO: Michael Stocker
2005: 3.2 mil
5-year: 10.7 mil

* WellPoint
CEO: Larry Glasscock
2005: 23 mil
5-year: 46.8 mil

* Wyeth
CEO: Robert Essner
2005:6.5 mil
5-year: 28.9 mil

TOTAL 2005: 559.8 mil

TOTAL 5-Year: 14.9 billion

Posted : September 27, 2009 12:06 pm
Trusted Member

I've have said all along that pharmaceutical reform would have a drastic impact on health care. Too bad those companies make soooo much money that they are able to buy most of the politicians out there so that reform will never happen. Have you heard any politician discuss the need for Pharmaceutical reform or looking into the FDA and how decisions are made about prescription drug control?
We don't really need national health care - we need to reform the parts of our system that are out of control (tort reform, pharmaceutical reform and deporting illegal aliens instead of treating their every cold in an emergency room) and it will save BILLIONS each year and costs would come down to affordable levels for everyone. Health care providers charge uninsured and under-insured people 3 to 20 times the amount they accept from insurance carriers. Reform health care charges so that everyone pays the same fee for the same service, remove Inter-State competition barriers so the insurance becomes affordable for everyone. I also think that health care should not be tied to your employment so it can stay with you as you change jobs.
I worked in the insurance industry for 12 years and I currently use government run health care. I have also recently had some health care issues. I now have a very thick folder of heath care provider bills and "Explanation of Benefits" from the government health care. The paperwork alone is unbelievable not to mention the thousands of dollars the government refuses to pay the providers. Now I have to spend hours wading through all of it before I figure out how to pay all that I am being billed for. I do not believe that government run heath care is in our best interests and it certainly is not an efficient system. Just my opinion...

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