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well some guy is reading now and he's way too geeky,he's really trying to make sense but he's coming across as the absentminded professor,he's got cornrows but he has a part running down the center of his head so his rows go east to west instead of north to south,it looks really odd

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Topic starter Posted : July 9, 2008 12:50 am
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and now your buddy--who of course starts out claiming he is a native---

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Posted : July 9, 2008 12:54 am
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lol it's funny listening to ol adelbert call his nephew "mr.president" alot of the common theme i'm picking up is this.if diageo made a couple billion dollars last year why then can they not build the facility here themselves without the bond thing and i guess my answer to that is so what,if we don't build it they won't come and we lose out on millions,we are being handed a gift horse here and yes there are strings attached but good lord you have to spend money to make money,i think this is the first time i've seen i've seen the murderer in regular clothes

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Topic starter Posted : July 9, 2008 12:59 am
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oh my god ol adelbert the murderer just compared the diageo deal with having unprotected sex,lol i've heard it all,hey Beachy no TV?still there yearasta? yeah beachy he want the jobs to go to native crucians

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Topic starter Posted : July 9, 2008 1:05 am
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yep still here...amusing..but sad

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Posted : July 9, 2008 1:22 am
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jeez the first clap of thunder and i'm covered in terrified dogs,this group of testifiers are an odd bunch,there at recess now so i switched it over to 12 monkeys on cable this is my second favorite brad pit movie he nuts in this one, my first favorite with him is the crime murder movie true romance,in that one he's a stoned out slacker on a couch,well a fight club was good too,the new bruce willis movie on cable is great action adventure,lol i've watched it 3 times this week

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Topic starter Posted : July 9, 2008 1:27 am
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so Yearasta my life on this thread is basically an open book,whats your story if you care to share any of it?

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Topic starter Posted : July 9, 2008 1:28 am
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Brad Pitt's best..i'll probably go with Fight Club and Se7en....also like the Ocean's

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Posted : July 9, 2008 1:31 am
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I'm in the states right now so can't get the VI on TV, but am listening. The sound quality is pretty poor--think of the gov't TV programs--the sound comes and goes, crackles, the volume level keeps changing, but it's better than not knowing.
One thing interesting is how well K Mapp speaks (accent and vocabulary etc) now that he's not running for office. Sort of the same way Ronnie can clean up his act when he's in the states...I don't like fakes. Not that that's the reason I don't like either of them, but I digress..
Now they are bickering over who is a VI resident...

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Posted : July 9, 2008 1:36 am
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Whatcha wanna know? 😉 If you pm me an email I can send you a pic of Melissa and Myself so you can see who you're talking too.

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Posted : July 9, 2008 1:39 am
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Beachy..what do you mean by fakes? Talking about turning the accents off and on?

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Posted : July 9, 2008 1:41 am
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yes Yearasta, i don't call it fake i've always called in pandering for votes,ottley has a great voice it's calming and smooth and senator dowe just basically called adelbert the murderer a liar,senator davis has a great voice as well,oop serville just got back from the trough and he's playing nice with the geek with the sideways cornrows and talking about "our" people, i admit i'd like to meet the geek

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Topic starter Posted : July 9, 2008 1:51 am
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Not the accent, we've all got accents from somewhere (and I'm not crazy about my own accent), but the grammar, the vocabulary, the whole image---these folks are or should be role models for the kids in the VI, but they (some of them) do everything to avoid sounding like the educated folks that some of them are. Until, that is, they are in a situation where they know or care that they will be looked down on or not taken as seriously if they spoke in their customary manner--I think that kids learn by example, and the example some of these people set is more than poor, and yes, fake, phony, whatever. For some kids, it's a tough lesson to learn down the line, that grammar and writing skills and being able to speak well are all expectations in most of the world, whether in college or the working world. I just think that some of these people put on an act most of the time.

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Posted : July 9, 2008 1:59 am
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As far as that is concerned...hear me out. I am not saying this is the case with them. BUT with me...when I am around someone from the states I tend to lose a lot of my accent...to me it's like a foreign language. I also speak Spanish...when I am around English speakers I speak English when I am around Spanish speakers, I speak Spanish. So as far as my island accent, I guess at times it will be heavier depending on the people i am around. In the states, I wouldn't speak raw Crucian because I got tired of repeating myself...so I spoke to be understood, which is something I don't have to do here. So in my opinion (disclaimer) it's not being a fake...maybe, just maybe it's speaking to be understood.

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Posted : July 9, 2008 2:06 am
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And beachy you are very right! We learned from a young age to separate raw Crucian from Proper...we were not allowed to speak raw Crucian at home...we did that in school, limin etc etc.

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Posted : July 9, 2008 2:08 am
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My take on this, some children can be flexible some can't. You can speak "Raw Crucian" like what Yearasta said, but you can still speak "proper" (I have a gripe wit that word) with an Crucian accent. Some can speak "raw", and really don't know how to speak "proper", but can slow down for someone else to understand. Some of us that have lived in the states can "yank" and sound like we were born and raised in whatever state that we lived in. When I lived in the states, people complained about my accent, but when I heard them talk in their accent i could hardly understand them at times.
When Beachy said, "the grammer the vocabulary" I kinda got offended by that, but then I let it pass. But it all applies to our accents. I just sometimes find that to certain people I should have a "raw" accent, and then to certain people get offended when I speak in a "raw" accent. I speak in what ever accent comes out of my mouth.

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Posted : July 9, 2008 2:17 am
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oh it was great senator weber just said how pround he was of the fact that those of us that live on the big island are not afraid to speak up,he was commending the geek, the murderer and mapp, he said he did not neccesarily agree with them but he is proud of the fact that they came forward and spoke up,they're almost done for the night,i think the geek said he had two degrees in chem and one in math and it all begins again tomorrow

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Topic starter Posted : July 9, 2008 2:17 am
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when i'm around people from northern minnesota or north dakota, the country hick in me come out and the drawl starts and i just kind of fall into it because i lived there for 15 years, i lived in texas for 6 years and the ya'alls and fixings come out when i'm around those people,at work with the business people the proper english comes out

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Topic starter Posted : July 9, 2008 2:25 am
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well g'nite all it was fun doing the hearings with you but i have 2 doubles in a row coming up at paradise so i need the sleep

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Topic starter Posted : July 9, 2008 2:28 am
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I'm intrigued about the language an accent thing. My grand son was born in Hawaii and learned to talk there. He was 2 when he moved to STX. He just turned three. He picked up some Hawaiian words, instead of no his mother said pow, then he played with a lot of local kids and picked up some pigeon, he would say allbus for broken. Now his speech is developing a crusian cadence. Some times I have a hard time understanding. I 've been working with trades people and my employees and find myself talking differently. I grew up in the Boston and lived in Maine so the that regional accent is evident.
My son knows the Cruizian patois from working with the locals and through his music.

There's a lot of people who can turn it on and off and speak educated English. It's like TRW says when he's around people that have his old accent it just comes right back.

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Posted : July 9, 2008 12:45 pm
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One of the teachers at Dober was telling her students who were putting on a skit that she didn't want any "yard talk." 🙂

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Posted : July 9, 2008 1:59 pm
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So Trade, what did she consider "yard talk"?

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Posted : July 9, 2008 2:15 pm
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Just the local talk, she wasn't talking about the accent.

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Posted : July 9, 2008 5:31 pm
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hello all,i spent the day at work and when it was slow i had the hearings turned up to watch and listen,more of the same,ya know i voted for usie when he ran the first time,he had said some good things while he was campaining(sp) and now after watching him live for 2 days i've come to the conclusion he's a jerk,the diageo people seem to be holding there own but it seems like their patience is wearing thin i mean how many times can the same question be asked by a different senator,senator white read a letter from the gov of PR to our gov and it was not a very nice letter.

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Topic starter Posted : July 10, 2008 2:20 am
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I missed it tonight...I went and sat at the bar while waiting for Melissa to get off work.

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Posted : July 10, 2008 2:22 am
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