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(@speee1dy)
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eastenders, just read the 4 articles. had heard about the looting done. greed is a disease. the last one just shocked me. in the article they said that basically breaking a camera brings disgrace to the senate, but shooting your son brings supporters by the hundreds to the airport. am i getting that right or did i misunderstand what was written

 
Posted : March 8, 2009 5:27 pm
Trade
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You read correctly. That's the way some think down here.

 
Posted : March 8, 2009 5:31 pm
(@speee1dy)
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thats a sad state of affairs.

 
Posted : March 8, 2009 5:33 pm
bathiel
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Take away, for a moment, the fact that Bryan is a raving racist psychopath and focus on the wording of what this "delegation" is debating. Imagine if your home state (if you're not from the VI) followed the same logic. For me, from Ohio, we'd be looking at giving "ancestral Ohioans" special rights--those people who could trace their lineage to the people from New England who were granted land in Ohio as reparations for having their property destroyed by the British in the Revolutionary War. Then, we'd have the "native Ohioans" whose family moved there between the Revolutionary War and the time Ohio became a state (1803), followed by "Ohio residents," who moved there after 1803. Does any of this make sense? Of course not. Why does having any kind of three-level definition of a "Virgin Islander" make sense? It doesn't. And why can't anyone stop this madness? Because they have no guts. Thankfully, there are still two possible obstacles to the passage of this idiocy--the people of the VI themselves and the federal government (the latter of which I ordinarily wouldn't count on to be an arbiter of common sense, but when discussing the politics of the VI, I'd have to side with the feds).

Bernie

 
Posted : March 8, 2009 11:06 pm
(@east-ender)
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This is what, the 5th constitutional convention? And all have been toppled by the same problems. The document never gets to Congress because the electorate votes it down, over and over and....

 
Posted : March 8, 2009 11:57 pm
Trade
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Meanwhile, Adelbrain & his ilk keep getting 3 squares a day plus publicity for acting like the nutcase he is. He revels in it.

 
Posted : March 9, 2009 12:39 am
(@divinggirl)
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Ahhhhh....our tax dollars at work. Good thing we don't need things like road repair, school repair, books for children in schools, an efficient enery provider and other nonsense. Thankfully our tax dollars are going to such a good cause otherwise without these definitions how would we know who is who?

 
Posted : March 9, 2009 10:18 am
(@Betty)
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I thought this was the 17th constiuational covention, none of this stuff will ever pass. This nonsense is one thing I never worry about. Its either a shame we waste money on it or its a shame enough normal people don't participate to make it worth spending money.

 
Posted : March 9, 2009 4:01 pm
 trw
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i love the fact that mary wants to introduce for discussion non payment of property taxes for "natives" does she not realize that the armstrong and lawetz(sp) families would qualify under the definition,now those 2 families alone probally own half the island or close to it,ok i exagerrate, and for them not to pay property taxes is quite laughable,she'll have to come up with a black only native policy

 
Posted : March 9, 2009 5:29 pm
(@loungestx)
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Shouldn't you have to be a Carib or Arawak to be a native by his style of thinking? That would probably leave out most of the "natives" he is thinking of.
Constitutions are created to secure peoples rights not exclude.

 
Posted : March 11, 2009 8:28 am
(@Lizard)
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A territory or State constitution can't be more restrictive than the US Constitution!

 
Posted : March 11, 2009 9:25 am
antiqueone
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"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

 
Posted : March 11, 2009 10:19 am
(@east-ender)
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loungestx: Even the Caribs and Arawaks came from elsewhere! 😉

 
Posted : March 11, 2009 6:54 pm
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