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January 22, 2017 12:59 pm  

300 March on St. Thomas in Solidarity with Women’s March on Washington

http://stthomassource.com/content/news/local-news/2017/01/22/300-march-st-thomas-solidarity-women-s-march-washington


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January 22, 2017 1:04 pm  

A look into history:

The Original Women's March on Washington and the Suffragists Who Paved the Way

They fought for the right to vote, but also advanced the causes for birth control, civil rights and economic equality

Read more: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/original-womens-march-washington-and-suffragists-who-paved-way-180961869/#1y1ciopV7Sc4dtQK.99


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January 22, 2017 1:07 pm  

I haven't heard how the Women's March went in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, Abuja, Nigeria (#bringbackourgirls), and Taliban-held cities in Afghanistan and Pakistan?

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January 22, 2017 5:27 pm  

pretty much how i feel.

Copied from a friend, but, this says exactly how I, a 65 y/o woman feels about the march:

Some women have a different view of their gender.... I believe whole heartedly. ................... I am not a "disgrace to women" because I don't support the women's march. I do not feel I am a "second class citizen" because I am a woman. I do not feel my voice is "not heard" because I am a woman. I do not feel I am not provided opportunities in this life or in America because I am a woman. I do not feel that I "don't have control of my body or choices" because I am a woman. I do not feel like I am " not respected or undermined" because I am a woman.
I AM a woman.
I can make my own choices.
I can speak and be heard.
I can VOTE.
I can work if I want.
I control my body.
I can defend myself.
I can defend my family.
There is nothing stopping me to do anything in this world but MYSELF.
I do not blame my circumstances or problems on anything other than my own choices or even that sometimes in life, we don't always get what we want. I take responsibility for myself.
I am a mother, a daughter, a wife, a sister, a friend. I am not held back in life but only by the walls I choose to not go over which is a personal choice.
Quit blaming.
Take responsibility.
If you want to speak, do so. But do not expect for me, a woman, to take you seriously wearing a pink va-jay-jay hat on your head and screaming profanities and bashing men.
If you have beliefs, and speak to me in a kind matter, I will listen. But do not expect for me to change my beliefs to suit yours. Respect goes both ways.
If you want to impress me, especially in regards to women, then speak on the real injustices and tragedies that affect women in foreign countries that do not that the opportunity or means to have their voices heard.
Saudi Arabia, women can't drive, no rights and must always be covered.
China and India, infantcide of baby girls.
Afghanistan, unequal education rights.
Democratic Republic of Congo, where rapes are brutal and women are left to die, or HIV infected and left to care for children alone.
Mali, where women can not escape the torture of genital mutilation.
Pakistan, in tribal areas where women are gang raped to pay for men's crime.
Guatemala, the impoverished female underclass of Guatemala faces domestic violence, rape and the second-highest rate of HIV/AIDS after sub-Saharan Africa. An epidemic of gruesome unsolved murders has left hundreds of women dead, some of their bodies left with hate messages.
And that's just a few examples.
So when women get together in AMERICA and whine they don't have equal rights and march in their clean clothes, after eating a hearty breakfast, and it's like a vacation away that they have paid for to get there...
This WOMAN does not support it.


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January 22, 2017 6:27 pm  

pretty much how i feel.

Copied from a friend, but, this says exactly how I, a 65 y/o woman feels about the march:

Some women have a different view of their gender.... I believe whole heartedly. ................... I am not a "disgrace to women" because I don't support the women's march. I do not feel I am a "second class citizen" because I am a woman. I do not feel my voice is "not heard" because I am a woman. I do not feel I am not provided opportunities in this life or in America because I am a woman. I do not feel that I "don't have control of my body or choices" because I am a woman. I do not feel like I am " not respected or undermined" because I am a woman.
I AM a woman.
I can make my own choices.
I can speak and be heard.
I can VOTE.
I can work if I want.
I control my body.
I can defend myself.
I can defend my family.
There is nothing stopping me to do anything in this world but MYSELF.
I do not blame my circumstances or problems on anything other than my own choices or even that sometimes in life, we don't always get what we want. I take responsibility for myself.
I am a mother, a daughter, a wife, a sister, a friend. I am not held back in life but only by the walls I choose to not go over which is a personal choice.
Quit blaming.
Take responsibility.
If you want to speak, do so. But do not expect for me, a woman, to take you seriously wearing a pink va-jay-jay hat on your head and screaming profanities and bashing men.
If you have beliefs, and speak to me in a kind matter, I will listen. But do not expect for me to change my beliefs to suit yours. Respect goes both ways.
If you want to impress me, especially in regards to women, then speak on the real injustices and tragedies that affect women in foreign countries that do not that the opportunity or means to have their voices heard.
Saudi Arabia, women can't drive, no rights and must always be covered.
China and India, infantcide of baby girls.
Afghanistan, unequal education rights.
Democratic Republic of Congo, where rapes are brutal and women are left to die, or HIV infected and left to care for children alone.
Mali, where women can not escape the torture of genital mutilation.
Pakistan, in tribal areas where women are gang raped to pay for men's crime.
Guatemala, the impoverished female underclass of Guatemala faces domestic violence, rape and the second-highest rate of HIV/AIDS after sub-Saharan Africa. An epidemic of gruesome unsolved murders has left hundreds of women dead, some of their bodies left with hate messages.
And that's just a few examples.
So when women get together in AMERICA and whine they don't have equal rights and march in their clean clothes, after eating a hearty breakfast, and it's like a vacation away that they have paid for to get there...
This WOMAN does not support it.

And you certainly have the right not to support it.

My take on this march was two points- to reinforce to leaders the desire to protect these existing rights you so proudly listed and then some and as a show of support for rights of groups other than woman. Arguably there are some in either party that would like to restrict or remove some of those rights you so proudly listed. It's a fact that in some areas of the country the majority party is doing everything they can think of to hinder voting rights of the opposition party, woman and men. We may be a judicial appointee or legislative vote away from impacting some of these rights. And that was the point of the march in my view. Don't take them for granted. The vast majority of the marchers were peaceful, the few loonies that were out there should not be held up as representatives of the entire march.


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January 22, 2017 6:40 pm  

So we should be voting by land size.
100 people living in 22 square miles should have the same voting power as 1.7 million living in the same space?

So each of those 100 people get 17,000 votes each compared to the folks who get 1 in that higher density area.

Regarding the prattle about how great women have it here.... so because we don't treat women as badly as the women living in those countries they shouldn't complain?
And it's ok if you and I have the same job and I'm making 30% more than you?

Just want to be clear.


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January 22, 2017 8:31 pm  

And why shouldn't we wish everyone to have those same rights?
We've already fought and died for them. Must we do it, again?


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January 22, 2017 8:35 pm  

Just to be sure, I'm guessing that you're against set asides that mandate women and women owned businesses be given a % of a project


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January 22, 2017 8:45 pm  

Equality, fair and just treatments.
Is that beyond your scope of understanding?


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January 22, 2017 9:02 pm  

Who is the judge of fair? Anything that is fair in the eyes of some isn't fair too all.
The last eight years have been seen as a triumph of fairness and equality to some.
To others it has been a wealth redistribution too those that have not earned it.
How ever you feel the pendulum is swinging back the other way. It is time and no matter how many marches, broken windows and crying it will continue rightward until it is time too go back the other way.


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January 22, 2017 9:23 pm  

(tu)

Copied from a friend, but, this says exactly how I, a 65 y/o woman feels about the march:

Some women have a different view of their gender.... I believe whole heartedly. ................... I am not a "disgrace to women" because I don't support the women's march. I do not feel I am a "second class citizen" because I am a woman. I do not feel my voice is "not heard" because I am a woman. I do not feel I am not provided opportunities in this life or in America because I am a woman. I do not feel that I "don't have control of my body or choices" because I am a woman. I do not feel like I am " not respected or undermined" because I am a woman.
I AM a woman.
I can make my own choices.
I can speak and be heard.
I can VOTE.
I can work if I want.
I control my body.
I can defend myself.
I can defend my family.
There is nothing stopping me to do anything in this world but MYSELF.
I do not blame my circumstances or problems on anything other than my own choices or even that sometimes in life, we don't always get what we want. I take responsibility for myself.
I am a mother, a daughter, a wife, a sister, a friend. I am not held back in life but only by the walls I choose to not go over which is a personal choice.
Quit blaming.
Take responsibility.
If you want to speak, do so. But do not expect for me, a woman, to take you seriously wearing a pink va-jay-jay hat on your head and screaming profanities and bashing men.
If you have beliefs, and speak to me in a kind matter, I will listen. But do not expect for me to change my beliefs to suit yours. Respect goes both ways.
If you want to impress me, especially in regards to women, then speak on the real injustices and tragedies that affect women in foreign countries that do not that the opportunity or means to have their voices heard.
Saudi Arabia, women can't drive, no rights and must always be covered.
China and India, infantcide of baby girls.
Afghanistan, unequal education rights.
Democratic Republic of Congo, where rapes are brutal and women are left to die, or HIV infected and left to care for children alone.
Mali, where women can not escape the torture of genital mutilation.
Pakistan, in tribal areas where women are gang raped to pay for men's crime.
Guatemala, the impoverished female underclass of Guatemala faces domestic violence, rape and the second-highest rate of HIV/AIDS after sub-Saharan Africa. An epidemic of gruesome unsolved murders has left hundreds of women dead, some of their bodies left with hate messages.
And that's just a few examples.
So when women get together in AMERICA and whine they don't have equal rights and march in their clean clothes, after eating a hearty breakfast, and it's like a vacation away that they have paid for to get there...
This WOMAN does not support it.


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January 22, 2017 9:25 pm  

Equality, fair and just treatments.
Is that beyond your scope of understanding?

Yes as they are subjective.


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January 22, 2017 9:33 pm  

Then you don't wish to be treated in that manner, obviously.


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January 22, 2017 10:05 pm  

Then you don't wish to be treated in that manner, obviously.

If it's based on your definitions, you'd be correct


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January 22, 2017 11:13 pm  

Alana, I seriously would like to know what rights are in danger, in your opinion?


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January 23, 2017 10:30 am  

Woman's rights, human rights, civil rights.
The right to clean air, water, environmental rights and those rights that protect wildlife and scientific advancement.

When you have a pathological liar as president, best start keeping an eye on everything. Unless you live in an "alternative reality," like he and his henchmen do.

Alternative facts’ – the greatest, strongest facts that ever existed
In today’s pass notes: Kellyanne Conway reckons that lies from the Trump White House are merely ‘alternative facts'

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/shortcuts/2017/jan/23/alternative-facts-the-greatest-strongest-facts-that-ever-existed


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January 23, 2017 11:40 am  

The march and the principles behind it are clear, sound, and just. Anyone you find arguing against the march is trying to shut down free speech to protect their shameful agenda.

Thanks, Alana, for speaking out.

This board is a haven for alt-right trolls.


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January 23, 2017 11:41 am  

(tu)(tu)(tu)


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January 23, 2017 11:51 am  

a troll is not someone who disagrees with what you have to say. please stop overusing the word

The march and the principles behind it are clear, sound, and just. Anyone you find arguing against the march is trying to shut down free speech to protect their shameful agenda.

Thanks, Alana, for speaking out.

This board is a haven for alt-right trolls.


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January 23, 2017 11:57 am  

Alana: Okay, that was kind of vague. Which rights do women have that are in danger of being, what, denied?

So Sunny: There can be no discourse any more? One cannot ask: What are the "clear, sound, and just principles"?


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January 23, 2017 12:07 pm  

Here's an excellent speech: Hopefully it clarifies things for you.

Angela Davis' Women's March speech: 'this country’s history cannot be deleted'

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/22/angela-davis-womens-march-speech-countrys-history-cannot-be-deleted?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Excerpt:

"The struggle to save the planet, to stop climate change, to guarantee the accessibility of water from the lands of the Standing Rock Sioux, to Flint, Michigan, to the West Bank and Gaza. The struggle to save our flora and fauna, to save the air – this is ground zero of the struggle for social justice."

"This is a women’s march and this women’s march represents the promise of feminism as against the pernicious powers of state violence. An inclusive and intersectional feminism that calls upon all of us to join the resistance to racism, to Islamophobia, to antisemitism, to misogyny, to capitalist exploitation."


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January 23, 2017 12:45 pm  

It was an anti-trump rally for someone who wasn't even in office for 24 hours yet. Name one thing that Obama did to promote woman's rights (besides health care, and technically that is not a right) Don't let your misguided woman's march mantra steer you from the fact that this was just another look at me moment. Women's rights are not going to suffer because of Trump, actually they will probably excel by creating more opportunity for everyone. If you want to March, then do it for the right causes where woman do not have any right i.e. the muslim community that the left wants to protect so bad. Here's an older article, but still relates to some of the real issues that we should be addressing:

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2008/03/08/ten_worst_countries_for_women.html

So I know the ladies on her will bash me, but just so you know I work with a lot of woman, hold them in high regard, one is my boss and I don't even care what your gender is as long as we are all committed to success.

My wife is very successful and I can only wish to achieve the things she has done. She's my hero and we talked about this march and she (being Canadian and a liberal) was appalled by this 'so called woman's march' and saw it for what it was.

Peace.


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January 23, 2017 1:16 pm  

You're certainly entitled to your opinion.
As I am mine.

Fact is trump ran his entire campaign espousing division, racism, sexism, xenophobia, misogyny to name a few while deriding many.


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January 23, 2017 1:52 pm  

dave does have a legitimate question though. in his first paragraph.


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