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Gumbo. This quote was not mine but gatorsmoms quote.
I still have not tries to do a small portion quote. Blast gators mom and not me, thanks

xcuse me but I don't buy the us and them crap. You're too dim lighted to understand so no need to explain. Better to call names and feel all big. Nostradamus is a very big word.

no need to call names, but you just did. gatorsmom-is that how you make a point

good point mtdoramike

LOL! Unless "dim lighted" has a new meaning I'm not aware of, and "Jack Ass" is a new term of endearment on Urban Dictionary, the irony here is almost too rich.

You do realize that this type of rhetoric, on both sides, contributes highly to the us vs them problem, don't you?

 
Posted : November 20, 2016 6:54 pm
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And again I dont know why people feel the need to put othwrs down to get a point across.

 
Posted : November 20, 2016 6:56 pm
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You cannot retain that balance of power as you describe when, at the highest levels of new thought, there is focused effort to obliterate the two party system.

This feels different - not about the transitional swing between being in power and then loyal opposition. This is not simplistic like left and right, conservative and liberal.

This is scary like the late 60's scary. Shoot people in the streets scary.

Bannon wants regime power for the next 50 years - I've never heard anything like that in my life time. He describes Trump as his perfect vessel.

Trust me, the irony doesn't escape me that he was interviewed by the Hollywood Reporter.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/steve-bannon-trump-tower-interview-trumps-strategist-plots-new-political-movement-948747

You don't think that's exactly what the liberals were trying to do? Hillary was going too be the the third term of Obama. I don't care what O'Bannon says about controlling the government for 50 years. It's not going to happen. The people will not allow it. That's what being an independent is about. They are the ones that force the change. The Liberals are just freaking out because they LOST. Nothing is going too change that.

 
Posted : November 20, 2016 7:35 pm
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Gumbo. This quote was not mine but gatorsmoms quote.
I still have not tries to do a small portion quote. Blast gators mom and not me, thanks

xcuse me but I don't buy the us and them crap. You're too dim lighted to understand so no need to explain. Better to call names and feel all big. Nostradamus is a very big word.

no need to call names, but you just did. gatorsmom-is that how you make a point

good point mtdoramike

LOL! Unless "dim lighted" has a new meaning I'm not aware of, and "Jack Ass" is a new term of endearment on Urban Dictionary, the irony here is almost too rich.

You do realize that this type of rhetoric, on both sides, contributes highly to the us vs them problem, don't you?

I'm at a loss trying too figure out what you are trying too say. If I blasted you it wasn't done on purpose. It can't even figure it out.
My Bad.

 
Posted : November 20, 2016 7:41 pm
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I don't think that's the case at all.
I think that the election of a man that has shown himself to be who and what he is, all during his campaign, which represents the very worst aspects of our society while embracing them, has people upset.

And he continues to upset people with his admiration for Putin, his refusal to show his taxes so a clearer picture of whom he is indebted to, the scope of his foreign dealings is in the light, the thus far refusal to put his companies in a blind trust instead of having his adult children handle them and whom he wants to enjoy top security clearance, lends itself to a complete lack of transparency and conflict of interest while promoting his egotistical self interest.

The list goes on....

Add that to filling the swamp, instead of draining it, with his corporate cronies, a white supremacist as chief of staff and other (to my way of thinking) narrow minded, far left to the extreme, policy advisors and cabinet members that espouse and advocate torture, racism, xenophobia, sexism and the suppression of equal rights, women's rights, voting rights, the elimination of healthcare, planned parenthood, the republican agenda for social security, privatization of public lands, more tax benefits for the wealthy and corporations and a myriad of other policies that just boggles the mind and bleakens our future.

"Congress is already talking about privatizing Medicare, leaving seniors at the mercy of whims of pharmaceutical companies that hike prices more than 5,000 percent in a single day. Oh, did I also mention they have their hearts set on overturning Roe v. Wade and marriage equality?"

He has yet to show honesty, truthfulness, decency, ethical standards, moral fiber or any characteristics that would be redeeming qualities.

 
Posted : November 20, 2016 8:20 pm
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BooHoo...

 
Posted : November 20, 2016 8:48 pm
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Yes the Clinton's set a very high bar for ethical standards. Already it is apparent that the Democrats are distancing themselves from them. They know that ship has sailed. I hope that Howard Dean takes the helm. If that happens and Pocahontas is head Squaw they can assure themselves a solid whining loss next time around.:D

 
Posted : November 20, 2016 8:50 pm
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Y'all are pretty hypocritical and not addressing the glaring deficiencies this president elect and his abysmal cohorts bring to the table.

BTW:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clintons-popular-vote-lead-donald-trump-now/story?id=43667918

 
Posted : November 20, 2016 9:18 pm
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No, the democratic party was not trying to take over the country as a single party.

We're talking DNC here - fully bought into Constitutional government. That's how it was formed, that's how it operates, that's the engine that makes it run. The same for the GOP of old.

Under Obama the DNC struggled mightily to find a loyal opposition to work with but was presented with tea party obstructionism instead. This was a very new tactic to politics in the US and different from how the game has been played for the past 50 years. It worked, too. Quite impressive. Really. This new playbook will be the model for the DNC once it reorganizes. The result will be continued erosion of a two party system.

Bannon is an outlier and is now one of the most powerful people in the world. He talks freely about wanting single party rule for the next 50 years. I believe him.

You assume free elections with a choice of candidates will continue as previous - I don't have the same vision for the future. The constitution-based two-party governmental structure is tenuous, always has been. Bannon knows most of us slept through civics in high school.

I've never understood that political dynasties like the Clintons and Bushes had delusions of a single party, strong man government as an ideal.

On a positive note, Thomas Cromwell had his head chopped off.

You cannot retain that balance of power as you describe when, at the highest levels of new thought, there is focused effort to obliterate the two party system.

This feels different - not about the transitional swing between being in power and then loyal opposition. This is not simplistic like left and right, conservative and liberal.

This is scary like the late 60's scary. Shoot people in the streets scary.

Bannon wants regime power for the next 50 years - I've never heard anything like that in my life time. He describes Trump as his perfect vessel.

Trust me, the irony doesn't escape me that he was interviewed by the Hollywood Reporter.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/steve-bannon-trump-tower-interview-trumps-strategist-plots-new-political-movement-948747

You don't think that's exactly what the liberals were trying to do? Hillary was going too be the the third term of Obama. I don't care what O'Bannon says about controlling the government for 50 years. It's not going to happen. The people will not allow it. That's what being an independent is about. They are the ones that force the change. The Liberals are just freaking out because they LOST. Nothing is going too change that.

 
Posted : November 20, 2016 9:31 pm
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Y'all are pretty hypocritical and not addressing the glaring deficiencies this president elect and his abysmal cohorts bring to the table.

BTW:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clintons-popular-vote-lead-donald-trump-now/story?id=43667918

You guys better move to some of those ignorant red states in hopes of getting more electoral votes.

 
Posted : November 20, 2016 9:33 pm
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The fact is: Trump Won! The country needed a change. I'm not scared to try something new.
Also getting bored with this post.
oh, I'm not bitter.
Gumbo out 😛

 
Posted : November 20, 2016 9:52 pm
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So everything was cool when Hillary went to Russia with a reset button, but bad when Trump does something with Putin.

I remember the left marginalizing the GOP as a party that would never hold power again after Obama won

The whole bring afraid is the lefts attempt at whipping up their base.

It's amazing how the weak minded are easily swayed.

 
Posted : November 20, 2016 10:43 pm
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So true of trump's supporters.

 
Posted : November 20, 2016 10:49 pm
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Been there done that wearing the t-shirt (actually I am)

I grew up in the reddest of the red states and probably know more than most about what happens when one party prevails because of gargantuan amounts of Koch PAC money.

If I'm going to live in a political wasteland and have no voice - it might as well be the VI!

Drop Mic - Out.

Y'all are pretty hypocritical and not addressing the glaring deficiencies this president elect and his abysmal cohorts bring to the table.

BTW:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clintons-popular-vote-lead-donald-trump-now/story?id=43667918

You guys better move to some of those ignorant red states in hopes of getting more electoral votes.

 
Posted : November 20, 2016 11:32 pm
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"Who's afraid? we live in paradise, little of that silliness up north will effect us here.... "

A single executive order could potentially delay, slow or even stop the ships that supply this island.

A single executive order could potentially delay, slow or even stop benefits payments to the people on this island.

It is well-established that this man dislikes and has discriminated against people with darker skins than his. It is well-established that this man crudely lashes out whenever he believes he is being "disrespected." It is well-established that this man threatens, cheats, swindles, bullies, frivolously sues, openly incites violence against, and even sexually assaults anyone he chooses to. His followers appear to believe that his demonstrated behaviors authorize their own cruelties.

Who's afraid? I am.

 
Posted : November 21, 2016 1:15 am
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It is well-established that this man dislikes and has discriminated against people with darker skins than his.

No, no its not.

And besides, who even knows where the virgin islands are (Besides joe biden)

The POTUS is completely meaningless to the territories.

It is well-established that this man crudely lashes out whenever he believes he is being "disrespected." It is well-established that this man threatens, cheats, swindles, bullies, frivolously sues, openly incites violence against, and even sexually assaults anyone he chooses to. His followers appear to believe that his demonstrated behaviors authorize their own cruelties.

Who's afraid? I am.

Your afraid because you buy into propagandist bullshit from the leftists...

If you REALLY think any of that is true, then move to Canada; because the US that I know would NEVER ALLOW someone like that to become a billionaire, in fact he would have been sued for sexist, racist bla bla bla, over and over since the 1970's..

Seriously this diatribe is so ridiculous, completely baseless and as biased as I've ever seen.

PROVE ONE CLAIM you posted. JUST ONE.

I want to see a legal violation, somewhere... otherwise this guy is just a blunt asshole.

So am I.

-Unapologetic male.

 
Posted : November 21, 2016 1:47 am
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He's been sued over and over again.

Trump's 3,500 lawsuits unprecedented for a presidential nominee
USA TODAY ANALYSIS FINDS 3,500 LEGAL ACTIONS BY AND AGAINST TRUMP.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/01/donald-trump-lawsuits-legal-battles/84995854/

Gloria Allred on Trump’s alleged misconduct: ‘I don’t think the story is over yet’

The plentiful sexual misconduct allegations against Donald Trump have receded into the background since he won the presidential race, but a star lawyer is committed to making sure the nation doesn’t forget about them.
Gloria Allred, a famous women’s rights lawyer, is currently representing several women who accused the president-elect of sexual assault or misconduct during his campaign. Despite legal threats from Trump — soon to be the most powerful man in the country — she has no plans of backing down.

“This story became eclipsed the day that FBI director [James] Comey suggested he was looking into Hillary Rodham Clinton’s emails. And then, of course the day before the election he said, ‘Nothing there.’ Too late though because that may have motivated many of the Trump supporters to go to the polls,” she said in a Thursday interview with Yahoo News. “Yes, the story was eclipsed, but I don’t think the story is over yet.”
Allred also pointed to the fact that Clinton got a plurality of the vote, though Trump won the Electoral College by a comfortable margin. She said Trump losing the popular vote was in part a rejection of his treatment of women.
“A minority voted for him in spite of it, maybe some even because of it,” she continued. “And some perhaps completely ignoring or minimizing it. And that is a very big disappointment to many, many people because it should matter. I frankly think it should be a disqualifier.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/gloria-allred-on-trumps-alleged-misconduct-i-dont-think-the-story-is-over-yet-220148512.html

Here's more:

We Investigated, Donald Trump is Named in at Least 169 Federal Lawsuits

http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/we-investigated-donald-trump-is-named-in-at-least-169-federal-lawsuits/

USA TODAY exclusive: Hundreds allege Donald Trump doesn’t pay his bills
AMONG THOSE WHO SAY BILLIONAIRE DIDN'T PAY: DISHWASHERS, PAINTERS, WAITERS

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/

Plus he just settled his Trump University fraud lawsuit for $25 Million.

 
Posted : November 21, 2016 10:30 am
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Yawn.

 
Posted : November 21, 2016 11:28 am
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Gloria Allred... c'mon, is that who your now quoting. She's a leech. I can post just as many articles disputing everything you post Alana. It's just easier to find poorly investigated crap from the MSM. SO BIASED, give it a rest.
BTW, He's a business man, he isn't a politician, he has been doing business for 40+ years, of course he's gonna be sued. Lawyers are the biggest leeches out there.

I worked for a retailer that I got a notice of being sued at least weekly. Funny, when they claimed bankruptcy, it stopped. When they came out of bankruptcy, it took a week to get my first notice. I bet the company I work for now has 5,000 suits a year from people who can't walk without tripping over something, who drop something on them and hurt their lil toe. That's a BS article. Stop the nonsense.

Most lawyers are scum, as most politicians are lawyers, therefore... you get the point.

Before Alana calls me a lawyer bigot, I'm not, I don't believe they are all scum, but the majority are and there is one way to fix it. TORT Reform.

 
Posted : November 21, 2016 12:15 pm
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Yawn.

(tu)

 
Posted : November 21, 2016 12:24 pm
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Trump supporters seem to disregard his bad behaviors and even condone them.

"Y'all are pretty hypocritical and not addressing the glaring deficiencies this president elect and his abysmal cohorts bring to the table."

 
Posted : November 21, 2016 12:24 pm
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maybe i just read what you posted incorrectly , not a problem

Gumbo. This quote was not mine but gatorsmoms quote.
I still have not tries to do a small portion quote. Blast gators mom and not me, thanks

xcuse me but I don't buy the us and them crap. You're too dim lighted to understand so no need to explain. Better to call names and feel all big. Nostradamus is a very big word.

no need to call names, but you just did. gatorsmom-is that how you make a point

good point mtdoramike

LOL! Unless "dim lighted" has a new meaning I'm not aware of, and "Jack Ass" is a new term of endearment on Urban Dictionary, the irony here is almost too rich.

You do realize that this type of rhetoric, on both sides, contributes highly to the us vs them problem, don't you?

I'm at a loss trying too figure out what you are trying too say. If I blasted you it wasn't done on purpose. It can't even figure it out.
My Bad.

 
Posted : November 21, 2016 2:42 pm
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https://www.buzzfeed.com/lesterfeder/this-is-how-steve-bannon-sees-the-entire-world?utm_term=.snJMxQkwBz#.takwdq4Z7Y

Steve Bannon's world view.

It's hard to read unless you're used to the terminology.

 
Posted : November 22, 2016 4:33 pm
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https://www.buzzfeed.com/lesterfeder/this-is-how-steve-bannon-sees-the-entire-world?utm_term=.snJMxQkwBz#.takwdq4Z7Y

Steve Bannon's world view.

It's hard to read unless you're used to the terminology.

from buzzfeed eh?

I've sort of stayed away from them recently, but this is a pretty interesting article.

The theme is all the same. And the theme is middle-class and working-class people — they’re saying, “Hey, I’m working harder than I’ve ever worked. I’m getting less benefits than I’m ever getting through this, I’m incurring less wealth myself, and I’m seeing a system of fat cats who say they’re conservative and say they back capitalist principles, but all they’re doing is binding with corporatists.” Right? Corporatists, to garner all the benefits for themselves.

Sounds like the right guy for the job.

 
Posted : November 22, 2016 5:01 pm
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