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Does anyone know the story with the Gadsden flag on the bypass overlook? It's been there for a while now.

 
Posted : April 21, 2014 10:32 pm
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Does anyone know the story with the Gadsden flag on the bypass overlook? It's been there for a while now.

people are finally starting to become self responsible and understand what being an adult means?


(I don't know, but this is the LAST place I'd expect to see one of those, good to see!)

 
Posted : April 21, 2014 11:32 pm
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The Gadsden flag is a historical American flag with a yellow field depicting a rattlesnake coiled and ready to strike. Positioned below the snake is the legend "Don't Tread on Me". The flag was designed by and is named after American general and statesman Christopher Gadsden. Throughout history the Gadsden flag has been used a symbol of rebellion against governmental tyranny and today stands as a powerful symbol against oppression taxation and wasteful government spending.

Maybe we should all get one!

 
Posted : April 21, 2014 11:50 pm
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Yes!!!! We saw this a few weeks ago. When we went back to take a picture it was down. I am glad to know it is back up!!! 🙂 1/2 mile road trip tomorrow.

 
Posted : April 22, 2014 12:14 am
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I'll make bumper stickers! And ones that say don't litter. 🙂

 
Posted : April 22, 2014 1:12 am
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Found on Ebay, Gadsden Flag Bumper sticker for $2.00:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gadsden-Flag-Dont-Tread-On-Me-Bumper-Sticker-Decal-3x5-/231144779998

 
Posted : April 22, 2014 1:45 am
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Get a tattoo!

 
Posted : April 22, 2014 3:38 am
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I don't like that flag. It makes me think of myself as a snake, and I am not a snake.

 
Posted : April 22, 2014 9:20 am
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never noticed it and travel that almost every day

 
Posted : April 22, 2014 7:49 pm
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It is frequently used as a rallying flag for radical Libertarians. Perhaps a local political group?

 
Posted : April 22, 2014 8:04 pm
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Radical Libertarians might be a nice change from Radical Democrats.

 
Posted : April 22, 2014 8:17 pm
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What radical ideas these people have!

1. Eliminate Excessive Taxes - Excessively high taxes are a burden for those exercising their personal liberty to work hard and prosper as afforded by the Constitution. A fiscally responsible government protects the freedom of its citizens to enjoy the fruits of their own labor without interference from a government that has exceeded its necessary size, scope and reach into the lives of its citizens.

“Collecting more taxes than is absolutely necessary is legalized robbery.” --Calvin Coolidge

“A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.” --Thomas Jefferson

“Any tax is a discouragement and therefore a regulation.” --Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.

2. Eliminate the National Debt - By implementing fiscally conservative policies at all levels of government, progress can be made toward eliminating the U.S. National Debt. Massive increases in the National Debt have created and continue to create a huge burden for the next generation of Americans, thus imperiling the country’s short-term and long-term economic health and prosperity.

“You cannot escape the responsibility of tomorrow by evading it today.” --Abraham Lincoln

“If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace.” --Thomas Paine, 1776

“As on the one hand, the necessity for borrowing in particular emergencies cannot be doubted, so on the other, it is equally evident that to be able to borrow upon good terms, it is essential that the credit of a nation should be well established.” --Alexander Hamilton, 1790

3. Eliminate Deficit Spending - All deficit spending must be eliminated immediately. We insist that government representatives at all levels maintain a fiscally responsible budget and balance the books as would be expected of any American business.

“Arbitrary power is most easily established on the ruins of liberty abused to licentiousness.” --George Washington

“A penny saved is a penny earned.” --Benjamin Franklin

“Tomorrow, every Fault is to be amended; but that Tomorrow never comes.” --Benjamin Franklin

4. Protect Free Markets - America’s free enterprise system allows businesses to thrive as they compete in the open marketplace and strive toward ever better services and products. Allowing free markets to prosper unfettered by government interference is what propelled this country to greatness with an enduring belief in the industriousness and innovations of the populace.

“That some achieve great success, is proof to all that others can achieve it as well.” --Abraham Lincoln

“You cannot build character and courage by taking away a man’s initiative and independence.” --Abraham Lincoln

“The government’s view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.” --Ronald Reagan

5. Abide by the Constitution of the United States - The U.S. Constitution is the supreme law of the land and must be adhered to without exception at all levels of government. This includes the Bill of Rights and other Amendments to the U.S. Constitution and their provisions designed to protect states’ rights and individual liberties.

“A general Dissolution of Principles & Manners will more surely overthrow the Liberties of America than the whole Force of the Common Enemy.” --Samuel Adams, 1779

“The Constitution is the guide which I will never abandon.” --George Washington

“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” --Abraham Lincoln

6. Promote Civic Responsibility - Citizen involvement at the grassroots level allows the voice of the American people to be heard and directs the political behaviors of our representatives at both the local and national level so they, in turn, may be most effective in working to preserve the life, liberty and pursuit of happiness of this country’s citizens.

“The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave.” --Patrick Henry

“To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men.” --Abraham Lincoln

“Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light” --George Washington

“All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.” --Thomas Jefferson

7. Reduce the Overall Size of Government - A bloated bureaucracy creates wasteful spending that plagues our government. Reducing the overall size, scope and reach of government at both local and national levels will help to eliminate inefficiencies that result in deficit spending which adds to our country’s debt.

“My observation is that whenever one person is found adequate to the discharge of a duty...it is worse executed by two persons, and scarcely done at all if three or more are employed therein.” --George Washington

“If we can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people, under the pretense of taking care of them, they must become happy.” --Samuel Adams, 1802

“Energy and persistence conquer all things.” --Benjamin Franklin

8. Believe in the People - The American people, given their guaranteed freedoms, will thrive in a democratic, capitalist environment which allows individuals to strive toward ever greater achievements, innovations and the efficient production of needed and valued goods and services.

“Industry need not wish.” --Benjamin Franklin

“Government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the Earth.” --Abraham Lincoln

“The people will save their government, if the government itself will allow them.” --Abraham Lincoln

9. Avoid the Pitfalls of Politics - American politics is burdened by big money from lobbyists and special interests with an undue influence on the peoples’ representatives. The Tea Party movement is seen as a threat to the entrenched political parties and thus is the continual target of smear campaigns and misrepresentation of its ideals. We choose not to respond to these attacks except to strongly and explicitly disavow any and all hate speech, any and all violence as well as insinuations of violence, and any and all extreme and fringe elements that bring discredit to the Tea Party Movement. We are a peaceful movement and respect other's opinions and views even though they do not agree with our own. We stand by the Tea Party beliefs and goals and choose to focus our energies on ensuring that our government representatives do the same.

“I am a firm believer in the people. If given the truth, they can be depended upon to meet any national crisis. The great point is to bring them the real facts.” --Abraham Lincoln

“Honesty is the best policy.” --Benjamin Franklin

“Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism.” --George Washington

10. Maintain Local Independence - The strength and resilience of a grassroots movement is the ability of citizens at the local level to determine their own platforms, agendas and priorities free of an overriding central leadership. Exercising the clearly stated message of the Tea Party movement by its nature involves discourse about which policies and candidates best hold to our stated principles, and these various opinions should flourish and evolve at the local level.

“Here sir, the people govern.” --Alexander Hamilton in a speech to the New York Ratifying Convention, 1788

“Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of the people alone. The people themselves, therefore, are its only safe depositories.” --Samuel Adams, 1781

“This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it.” --Abraham Lincoln

 
Posted : April 22, 2014 8:26 pm
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Well it was taken down and whomever puts it up that it's against the law to do so. On a Government pole I suppose.

 
Posted : April 22, 2014 8:39 pm
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Every single quotation taken out of its historical context to imbue the moocher class with a veneer of patriotism. Pfft. Like flying the "Gadsden Flag" from a municipal flagpole at an overlook paid for with public money. Typical hypocrisy.

 
Posted : April 22, 2014 8:50 pm
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Well it was taken down and whomever puts it up that it's against the law to do so. On a Government pole I suppose.

How serious is this? As serious as putting up campaign signs that are larger than what is allowed or as serious as not buckling your seat belt? VERRRY SERIOUS VIOLATION!

Our Democrat Senators and Governor have put us $3B in debt. That's $30,000 for every man, woman and child in the VI. Now that should be against the law! We are further in the hole than Detroit, another fine example of Democrat governance. The last time Detroit had a non-Democrat mayor was 1962. Those democrats love to spend other peoples money!

 
Posted : April 22, 2014 8:56 pm
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Every single quotation taken out of its historical context to imbue the moocher class with a veneer of patriotism. Pfft. Like flying the "Gadsden Flag" from a municipal flagpole at an overlook paid for with public money. Typical hypocrisy.

I guess that it is a good thing that we don't have them down here. We have GOOD democrats taking care of us, that's why we are in such great shape. We just steal from the future to pay bills today. "I'd gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today!"

 
Posted : April 22, 2014 9:02 pm
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Yeah, well as I recall all the crap we've had to deal with started in Bush/Republican administrations.

 
Posted : April 22, 2014 9:14 pm
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Yeah, well as I recall all the crap we've had to deal with started in Bush/Republican administrations.

Yes, our country was attacked 8 months into George Bush's Presidency. Why is it that even after 5 years Bush is still blamed for all of our problems. Is it possible that 911 occurred because Clinton downsized the military and intelligence communities so much that the country was left vulnerable. Did you see Bush trying to lay the blame on Clinton. How very much unlike Obama.

The USVI has exactly the government it deserves! All good little democrats.

 
Posted : April 22, 2014 9:22 pm
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-- moved topic --

 
Posted : April 22, 2014 9:29 pm
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The flag was a premptive move. Word is that deJongh wants to name the Bypass after jimself.

 
Posted : April 22, 2014 9:40 pm
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Government officials removed this Gadsden flag, flying over the Christiansted Bypass on Monday on St. Croix. Daily News Photo by FIONA STOKES

Unauthorized flag flies over Christiansted for second time

BY FIONA STOKES (DAILY NEWS STAFF)
Published: April 21, 2014

ST. CROIX - For the second time in as many weeks, government officials have been called to remove an unauthorized flag posted on one of the poles on the lookout along the Christiansted Bypass.

The bright yellow flag with a coiled rattlesnake and the words "Don't tread on me" is a replica of a historic 1775 flag, known as the Gadsden flag.

It symbolizes independence and frequently is used by people participating in anti-tax tea parties or who want to send a message to government about infringing on the rights of citizens. To those displaying the Gadsden flag, it symbolizes their commitment to the freedoms and values upon which the country was founded.

The unauthorized yellow flag was removed Monday, and government officials said hoisting any unauthorized flag on the flagpole is illegal and could lead to arrests and prosecution.

St. Croix Administrator Dodson James said Monday that he received several calls reporting the yellow flag flying over the town and wants to send a clear message that it is illegal and will not be tolerated.

"There is no justification for posting any unauthorized flags on a government flag pole," he said. "That is government property, and proper authorization has to be given before any flags other than our nation's flag and our territory's flag can be flown."

James said he will meet with officials from the V.I. Public Works Department and from the V.I. Police Department to discuss a plan of action to ensure that the people responsible for raising the unauthorized flag stop doing so.

http://m.virginislandsdailynews.com/news/unauthorized-flag-flies-over-christiansted-for-second-time-1.1672544

 
Posted : April 22, 2014 11:20 pm
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Well then why not hoist the correct flags, U.S and U.S.V.I. on the government flagpole?

 
Posted : April 23, 2014 7:23 pm
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Yeah, well as I recall all the crap we've had to deal with started in Bush/Republican administrations.

I thought we were talking about Libertarians ?

AS a libertarian I can tell you this, we dislike republicans only slightly less than democrats and mostly just want to treat people like adults, not children.

 
Posted : April 23, 2014 8:16 pm
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