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blu4u
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To all future Susan56 types:

The US VI, STX in particular, is an in-your-face, for real place.

If we don't like you, we won't smile at you with a fake smile.
We don't like service sector jobs...we'll do them for the money, but we won't smile...we might suck our teeth...nothing personal.
If you get into any kind of business deal with us, legal or otherwise, keep your end of the bargain or we'll be pissed.
If you come here, we will not spoil you...you need to be able to deal.
If you can't deal, don't expect to live comfortable on ten dollars an hour jobs and bartender jobs.
If you don't like having a lot of Black people around, or you don't like to mix with Black people, don't come here.
If you like everything perfect, like roads for example, don't come here.
If you are not healthy, don't come here. Our hospital has issues but we locals can deal.
If you are White and only like to live around people who look like you, you better be rich. East End is expensive.
If you think that every time somebody gets killed you are next, don't come here.
If you kill somebody, their family will probably retaliate by trying to kill you...don't kill anybody.
If you think your politicians are better than ours, don't come here. We love Chucky Hansen...but we love Judy Fricks too (she's one of us).
Do not disrespect the Black people here with your stateside racism...they will retaliate by making your life miserable.
If you want everything like where you are from, stay there..we don't like Walmart, Taco Bell, and all them junk food places that make you need good hospitals.
The beaches are beautiful, but Black people use them too. We don't like anybody telling us we can't use our beaches.
We are accustomed to paying high price for everything...we will say chuuups and continue to deal.
Black people do not have the freedom to run anywhere on the planet and be liked or accepted. This is our home. We like it here.
If you can't live like a local, don't come here.

In a weird and shocking way, I have to agree with each of the above statements. That pretty much lays the cards on the table. It's up to each "new comer" (either confidential or down islander or latino/carib) to play the hand they're dealt.

If I could, I would like to discard the violence aspect. I think it holds back every segment of the population from fulfilling a life of promise. I don't know anyone (aside from some posters on this broad who rely on internet advertising to promote their businesses) who don't want to see our kids grow-up in a safer territory.

Home, I truly believe that the state side attitude towards of people of color has improved over the past decade, especially in metropolitan areas. Like most trends, USVI is a bit behind the curve. It bothers me when I hear white transplanted continietals knocking fish fry's and "the west Indian phone call".

And yes, everything does cost more. But that doesn't mean you have to buy it. Living simply has many benefits.

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Posted : November 29, 2012 5:24 pm
susan56
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OK Home Despot...

I grew up near NYC and lived 2 years in a bad section of Brooklyn.

I worked in an inner city hospital as a Nurse.

When I worked in the VI was one of the few whites and did fine.

Please don't play the race card on me....let's just deal a new deck.

I voted for Obama TWICE.

As I said before let's put this issue to bed as I feel your blood pressure rising!

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Posted : November 29, 2012 5:40 pm
Jamison
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lol. Voting for Obama has been the solution for white guilt for years now. haha

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Posted : November 29, 2012 5:47 pm
speee1dy
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and not voting for him makes you a racist-i have heard that too many times

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Posted : November 29, 2012 5:55 pm
blu4u
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lol. Voting for Obama has been the solution for white guilt for years now. haha

Maybe that's the case in your former "river town" (new hope, right?). Should we assume that since you worked in New Hope that you are gay? See where generalizations get ya? Jamison, don't read me wrong. I don't think you are a racist, far from it actually. But I don't know you. And I don't think it's fair to catorgorize people you don't know. Those types of generalizations are pretty last century up in the states, especially about 60 miles east of no hope.

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Posted : November 29, 2012 5:57 pm
Jamison
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lol. Voting for Obama has been the solution for white guilt for years now. haha

Maybe that's the case in your former "river town" (new hope, right?). Should we assume that since you worked in New Hope that you are gay? See where generalizations get ya? Jamison, don't read me wrong. I don't think you are a racist, far from it actually. But I don't know you. And I don't think it's fair to catorgorize people you don't know. Those types of generalizations are pretty last century up in the states.

Yeah New Hope. Great place. I get the generalization thing, it just read funny the way it was written. Like voting for Obama "TWICE" has any bearing on if you're a racist or not or that it proves anything. It's just funny.

And white guilt, like liberal guilt, are real things. I just found the comment funny, that's all. wasn't a comment about susan.

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Posted : November 29, 2012 6:04 pm
Home_Despot
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If you are White and only like to live around people who look like you, you better be rich. East End is expensive-this direct from your post i found racist.

Do not disrespect the Black people here with your stateside racism...they will retaliate by making your life miserable-should you not have said do not direspect PEOPLE-you brought up race here. respect people ALL of them

The beaches are beautiful, but Black people use them too. We don't like anybody telling us we can't use our beaches.- all people use them and i have never seen any one try to block or stop someone from using the beaches of ANY color.

those are your statements that i found racist.

OK...thanks for the clarification.

I stand corrected...there are no racist Caucasians in the Virgin Islands.

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Posted : November 29, 2012 6:07 pm
blu4u
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If you are White and only like to live around people who look like you, you better be rich. East End is expensive-this direct from your post i found racist.

The beaches are beautiful, but Black people use them too. We don't like anybody telling us we can't use our beaches.- all people use them and i have never seen any one try to block or stop someone from using the beaches of ANY color.[/b]

Not so fast.
East End ST thomas is the whitest part of the island, also the most expensive.
A few of the privated gated communites on STT prohibit beach access. (which is illegal but they are rich so they con do what ever becsue you paid-off some public official at the time your premit was granted or can keep a high priced RE attyn on retainer) If you are white and not a member of the subdivision, you are asked not to use the chairs, etc. If you are black, they set the dogs loose. I've seen this happen.

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Posted : November 29, 2012 6:16 pm
speee1dy
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blu, thanks i did not know that. i dont live there. i am in stx and have never seen that kind of thing.

home despot-just like there are no racist black in the virgin islands either

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Posted : November 29, 2012 7:09 pm
jostvandog
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OK I'm confused. How did a thread on driving away customers turn into a black/white racism thing?

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Posted : November 29, 2012 8:12 pm
islandjoan
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What is a "west indian phone call"? I haven't heard that one yet.

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Posted : November 30, 2012 2:50 am
susan56
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Voting for Obama has nothing to do with white guilt......I have always been a Democrat.

Next time should I go with Sarah Palin who can see Russia?

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Posted : November 30, 2012 8:53 am
susan56
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Home Despot....I want to meet you in Feb. when I come down to see friends.Hopefully we haven't met before!

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Posted : November 30, 2012 8:59 am
Home_Despot
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Home Despot....I want to meet you in Feb. when I come down to see friends.Hopefully we haven't met before!

Sounds like a plan!

I sincerely hope that everything works out OK for you with your move. We're all in this together.

Take care Susan.

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Posted : November 30, 2012 9:45 am
speee1dy
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susan that was funny

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Posted : November 30, 2012 12:22 pm
Jamison
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Voting for Obama has nothing to do with white guilt......I have always been a Democrat.

Next time should I go with Sarah Palin who can see Russia?

um, you brought that up. You used it as proof that you don't hate black people haha. TWICE! haha

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Posted : November 30, 2012 5:44 pm
islandtyme
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Tina Faye said she could see Russia from her house NOT PALIN - DOLT!

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Posted : November 30, 2012 8:31 pm
ICEMAN
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Is the "west indian phone call" stopping in the middle of the road to talk to someone else?

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Posted : November 30, 2012 8:40 pm
blu4u
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Driver to Driver or more common, driver to pedistrain. For example, on your way to work, in traffic, you spot the guy who cleaned out your cistren lines three years ago. You stop say hello, ask about each others families, chit chat, look for pen in the glove box, excahnge phone numbers, set a time for another service., all the while morning traffic is stopped behind you.
gotta love it or you will loose your mind.....

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Posted : November 30, 2012 8:46 pm
ICEMAN
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Thanks blu exactly what I thought. Too funny.

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Posted : November 30, 2012 10:18 pm
Jamison
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Personally, I enjoy that.

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Posted : December 1, 2012 3:13 pm
OldTart
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Personally, I enjoy that.

Doesn't really bother me much at all, particularly when some impatient twit a few cars back decides his time is way more important than anyone else's, pulls out of line and overtakes the waiting vehicles, narrowly avoids a collision with an oncoming vehicle in the opposite lane - and ends up just a few cars in front of you at the next stop sign. Gee, was it really worth it? 😀

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Posted : December 1, 2012 3:40 pm
speee1dy
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lol

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Posted : December 1, 2012 5:05 pm
Home_Despot
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Personally, I enjoy that.

Doesn't really bother me much at all, particularly when some impatient twit a few cars back decides his time is way more important than anyone else's, pulls out of line and overtakes the waiting vehicles, narrowly avoids a collision with an oncoming vehicle in the opposite lane - and ends up just a few cars in front of you at the next stop sign. Gee, was it really worth it? 😀

😀 I like watching the "Rush-ians" blow by me at 100 mph on Melvin Evans, only to wind up waiting in line with everybody else at Sunny Isle traffic light. Wow!! you beat me to the red light! awesome!

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Posted : December 1, 2012 6:45 pm
Jamison
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I will say this. I don't know why cars have mirrors on them, because nobody here gives a crap if somebody is behind them. If you have cars behind you and are going 10 mph for no reason, you're being rude. If you're letting every car out, you are being rude. I also think it's a symptom of the culture here, to not look at the repercussions of your actions. It's unfortunate how selfish people can be, no matter where you are.

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Posted : December 1, 2012 6:57 pm
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