Good news Trump supporters! You are right, your man isn't a Fascist.  

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redeyesadie
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Based on Trump's rhetoric there has been a growing tendency for those of us more liberally minded to refer to him as a Fascist. I admit to having done so yesterday. It turns out I was wrong, and when I see the guy I was talking to I will tell him so. Realizing we all have a personal responsibility to speak responsibly, I decided to reacquaint myself with the definition of Fascism:

Full Definition of FASCISM
1
often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2
: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

A little more digging yielded an informative article that will help Trump's detractors (and his supporters) understand why he is not quite a Fascist, and what he is instead. Here is the link to the article, and an excerpt:

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2015/12/10/9886152/donald-trump-fascism

"Again, fascism requires stepping outside the system and attacking the democratic structure. As long as that structure itself is handling illiberal attitudes on race, those attitudes don't themselves constitute a fascist trend.

But the views are still illiberal. To be very, very clear: Donald Trump is a bigot. He is a racist. He is an Islamophobe and a xenophobe. He profits off the hatred and stigmatization of traditionally oppressed groups in American society. That makes him, and his European peers, and racists in other eras in American history, a threat to crucial values of equality and fair treatment, and a threat to the actual human beings he's targeting and demonizing. And he's in particular mainstreaming Islamophobia, which is on the rise in recent months, as seen in a recent incident in which a Muslim engineer was harassed at a Fredericksburg, Virginia, civic meeting. "I’m really not sure those views in Fredricksburg would be aired were it not for Trump’s ‘mainstreaming’ of these prejudices," Feldman says.

Kevin Passmore, a historian at the University of Cardiff and author of Fascism: a Very Short Introduction, puts it well: "For me, the point about Trump’s proposals is not whether or not they are ‘fascist,' but whether or not they are moral." And they very clearly are not."

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JohnnyU
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It's funny to see liberals head explode at the mere thought of Trump becoming president (prob see the same with the right once Hillary is selected)

After the last 15 years, what's the worst that can happen?

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Alana33
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Another republican president.

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watruw8ing4
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It's funny to see liberals head explode at the mere thought of Trump becoming president (prob see the same with the right once Hillary is selected)

After the last 15 years, what's the worst that can happen?

My head hasn't exploded yet. But what was once hilarious entertainment now leaves me embarrassed for my country, and it's not helping anything except Daesh recruiting. Good lord, when Michael Reagan and I agree on our views on Trump (see Sunday Avis), you know its bad.

I don't think he could do much internal damage as President, since he's all talk, and even the TP caucus, as a whole, isn't that crazy. But I could see serious damage in foreign relations.

But it's a moot point. Unless there's a catastrophic event, he won't be President.

(we already know what to expect with a Hillary win. It'll be a repeat of Obama).

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rotorhead
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It's funny to see liberals head explode at the mere thought of Trump becoming president (prob see the same with the right once Hillary is selected)

After the last 15 years, what's the worst that can happen?

My head hasn't exploded yet. But what was once hilarious entertainment now leaves me embarrassed for my country, and it's not helping anything except Daesh recruiting. Good lord, when Michael Reagan and I agree on our views on Trump (see Sunday Avis), you know its bad.

I don't think he could do much internal damage as President, since he's all talk, and even the TP caucus, as a whole, isn't that crazy. But I could see serious damage in foreign relations.

But it's a moot point. Unless there's a catastrophic event, he won't be President.

(we already know what to expect with a Hillary win. It'll be a repeat of Obama).

Another Obama would be a disaster not only for the US but for the whole world. I am sure that it is all Bush's fault. After all Obama won a Nobel Peace prize.

"Ronald Reagan, in his successful 1980 bid for the presidency, famously asked the American people: “Are you better off than you were four years ago?” If we take the same slogan and apply it to international affairs, the world would respond with a resounding “no.” Enemies of the United States or its interests – Russia, China, Syria, Iran and North Korea – have been emboldened. Allies have been blindsided, brushed aside or, in one case, ceased to exist: Yemen, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Germany, Great Britain, France, Japan, South Korea and Israel. Al-Qaida has new strength, the Islamic State group holds large areas of Iraq and Syria, China exerts greater influence in Asia, and the Russians make continuous advances and gains in the Ukraine. We must remind ourselves that these issues and places are interrelated: Chaos in Yemen changes the dynamic in the Persian Gulf, just as the chaos in Syria changes the dynamic in the Levant. "
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/world-report/2015/01/30/obamas-foreign-policy-has-left-the-world-in-a-mess

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Spartygrad95
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We should have another war to show them brown people who is boss!!!

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