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vicanuck
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October 3, 2013 12:31 pm  

My wife came home from Quality Foods with a package of donuts from a local bakery yesterday. The plastic clam shell packaging was just like any you'd see at any grocery store in N. America. However, the fancy, colorful label had no ingredient list, no Nutrition Facts, no weight. No barcode. Nothing. Just the name of the bakery and a phone number.

I see this type of labeling on a lot of VI food products, with NONE of the standard information normally required by the FDA.

Its like that Coquito stuff they sell at Christmas. No labels, no ingredient list, no named manufacturer and put in used bottles that may or may not be cleaned properly.

Does any one know why this is allowed and how VI food manufacturers get away with this?

Just wondering.


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Jamison
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October 3, 2013 1:06 pm  

1 because people buy it
2 because nobody is watching for that here

we can barely get the cops into the bad areas or the courts to convict murderers and thieves. It'll be a while before anybody is checking the nutritional facts on your doughnuts for you.


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speee1dy
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October 3, 2013 6:15 pm  

i was always curious about that too


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Yearasta
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October 3, 2013 6:28 pm  

Same reason VIPD cant arrrest the dudes selling DVD's outside k-mart....its a Fed thing

http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/retrieveECFR?gp=&SID=cbd8103802722bb7e892e38b770311db&n=21y2.0.1.1.2&r=PART&ty=HTML


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STX46
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October 3, 2013 10:16 pm  

But they can arrest a bank robber if he is on a bicycle carrying a gun and bank bag----only if there is an off duty officer paying attention......


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Exit Zero
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October 4, 2013 4:00 am  

How were the donuts ? Labels have no flavor.


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InnAtPelicanHeights
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October 4, 2013 9:59 am  

When I buy box Dunkin Donut donuts in the supermarket in the states it has no label.

Or when I but a box od donuts in the states and bring it to the house.

Or buy a donut at a bakery and put it in a bag to take home, no label.

Working for a major retail store, Cumberland Farms/Gulf for almost 10 years, some items for resale don't require labels, however, most local and or on site made items packaged, require name and location.

For example, we had new machines for ice making which included bagging the ice automatic. Although the bag listed Cumberland Farms, local state and federal requirements required the location where the ice was made and bagged. For instance, Cumberland Farms , Johnston RI on the bag, NOT just Cumberland Farms. This was explained to management for the reason the ingredients are different, water in one town different from water in the other town.

Labelling is more of a federal requirement. The inspection of the business where the item is made is local. Don't blame it on the lack of workers or quality of workers here on St Croix, I am licensed with a hot dog cart and frequently are inspected when using---which IM OKAY with, as I follow the rules and exceed the requirements when handling food for sale to customers.

If you not comfortable with purchase of item with limited label, DONT BUY it. The market and or store the item is purchased at also has a legal obligation to buy items that are properly prepared, packaged, STORE, ETC....Just like the vegetables you purchase at the store----not labelled .


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vicanuck
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October 4, 2013 12:20 pm  

Great explanations and thanks! The donuts were from a place called Community Bakery and really sucked.


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Yearasta
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October 4, 2013 1:13 pm  

@boyd46 Robbery is a crime in Virgin Islands code


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STX46
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October 4, 2013 3:36 pm  

Yearasta
I know, I was being sarcastic. Sorry


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Jamison
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October 4, 2013 4:02 pm  

@boyd46 Robbery is a crime in Virgin Islands code

as somebody who works hard to make a difference here, you must get pretty tired of comments like that.


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Yearasta
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October 4, 2013 6:12 pm  

@boyd46 no need to apologize...I really make it a point to clear up mis-information and answer questions folks may have when the government...more specifically the legislature is involved....didnt mean to come across wrong

@Jamison na bro it's all good.....prolly the only thing I get tired of is WAPA....and "santapees" they both shouldnt exsist in my world!


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poodle
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October 4, 2013 11:38 pm  

Don't forget those ladies & children selling at their bake sale.

1-800-222-TIPS


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speee1dy
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October 4, 2013 11:51 pm  

i dont ever buy from there, just because it is all probable from a box and i usually do not do box mixes of anything.


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rmb2830
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October 5, 2013 1:40 am  

I bought a pack from Qf as well and we thought they were terrible. First and last time.


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vicanuck
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October 5, 2013 12:51 pm  

Believe me...I'm a Canadian who knows what a good donut tastes like and worked in the baking industry for over 20 years.

Those Community Bakery donuts were the worst I've ever come across.


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JulieKay
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October 5, 2013 8:13 pm  

And since we don't have a Community Kitchen on St. Croix, most of the unlabeled packaged goods are produced in home kitchens. This does not make them unsafe (not necessarily), but it does mean that a home cook on island really has very little way of labeling ingredients and nutrition information. There's no guarantee of no cross-contamination with allergen ingredients, for example.

That said, I know many of the folks I buy prepared foods from and I trust them way more than most American processed foods. At least most of the ingredients here are real! And coquito...well, I tend to go with the philosophy that alcohol kills most everything (indulge me please!).

It's like a few weeks ago on the plane to Miami, there was a lady sitting next to me with a large unlabeled pastry box full of tarts. She offered me one. A few years ago I would have gracefully declined because, "I don't know where they came from" (not that I would have said that!). Now I gratefully took a guava one and it was yummy. I think they came from Thomas Bakery, but no guarantees. And the world didn't end. I've become sick from floating flu germs on that flight way more times than risking a contaminated tart.

(I have not tried the QF donuts though and I don't plan to!)


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toninski
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October 6, 2013 11:06 am  

Everything I have had from Thomas Bakery has been great!

@yearasta, I appreciate your input on critical items, since you are in the know, and are able to straighten out rumors, etc.


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speee1dy
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October 6, 2013 11:27 am  

isnt it interesting that you can bake in your home kitchen, not label anything, sell it to the public but a business can not give certain non eaten food item to the homeless


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poodle
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October 6, 2013 7:56 pm  

Speee1dy, please elaborate...what can't be given/donated? This sounds crazy...


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speee1dy
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October 6, 2013 9:00 pm  

crazy but true, i asked a certain business what they do with the leftover food from a buffet and they said they had to toss it due to health regulations.


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JulieKay
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October 7, 2013 3:22 am  

The VI actually has legislation allowing restaurants to not be responsible for illness from donated food, unlike the states. Give me enough time I'll find it and post it here. Most restaurants use the "we can't" excuse to avoid the hassle.


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poodle
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October 7, 2013 8:56 am  

I tend to agree with you JulieKay. Last year when Blue Water Terrace closed down for the summer, they donated their prepared food, and there was no issue of health concern. Heck, if the food can be sold, then it can also be donated!


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speee1dy
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October 7, 2013 12:47 pm  

well, that is good to know. i now wonder if they were given misinformation or did not want to be bothered?


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JulieKay
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October 7, 2013 5:32 pm  

I think many of them have misinformation since it's illegal in many places in the US.


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