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rotorhead
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14 injured in knife attack on Lone Star College campus, suspect arrested
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/09/at-least-5-reportedly-stabbed-on-lone-star-college-campus/

These terrible knives are sooo dangerous. We should only allow blunt knives, without pointy edges. And no blades longer than 2".

When are we going to realize that tools don't kill people, violent people kill people. Let's crack down on violence by being tough on violent people not by taking tools away from law abiding citizens.

Commit an act of violence, get whacked! One appeal then bye-bye.

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Topic starter Posted : April 9, 2013 8:17 pm
VT2VI
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100% agree.

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Posted : April 9, 2013 9:35 pm
Lucy
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One could control a violent knife-wielding person very easily .... with a hand gun and shot to the head.

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Posted : April 9, 2013 10:05 pm
speee1dy
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mental health issues kill people, because in my opinion most people who kill have an issue with mental health. things do not kill people, people kill people

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Posted : April 9, 2013 10:26 pm
Linda J
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How many of these people were killed? None? Wonder what would have happened if the guy at Newtown was armed with a knife?

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Posted : April 10, 2013 1:25 am
Lucy
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What if the Newtown guy walked in with a bomb vest / IED .... like those that killed hundreds of our brave service people in the mid-east. Or ram a truck loaded with amonium-nitrate. If the crazys want to kill, they will find a way.

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Posted : April 10, 2013 10:14 am
Cruz
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How many of these people were killed? None? Wonder what would have happened if the guy at Newtown was armed with a knife?

good point(tu)

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Posted : April 10, 2013 12:20 pm
LiquidFluoride
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aren't medical accidents still (BY FAR) the #1 killer in the US... Screw knives, we should ban doctors!

Prohibition N E V E R works.. E V E R.

Rotor is right, we need to address the root cause here: violent behavior.

We need to kick everyone OUT of prison that is not a violent offender (though I could see exceptions for people who are destructive to other peoples property) and create a much harsher punishment scheme for violent offenders; second offense gets you a V tattooed on your forehead perhaps... third offense "chain gang" labor for 10 years (NO parole).

Of course it would help immensely if our prisons were not run for profit as they currently are & we were more focused on prevention etc..

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Posted : April 10, 2013 1:34 pm
loungestx
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Have to think if he had a gun things would have beem much worse.

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Posted : April 10, 2013 2:31 pm
LiquidFluoride
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Have to think if he had a gun things would have beem much worse.

if he would have had 15lbs of fertilizer and some diesel fuel, access to the internet and 15lbs of ball bearings it would have been FAR worse than a gun or knife.

should we ban Internet, fertilizer, diesel fuel and ball bearings too?

The quote below is very true, we see it in the countries we currently occupie, we see it in England (no guns allowed) and many other countries, prohibition doesn't stop violent individuals.

What if the Newtown guy walked in with a bomb vest / IED .... like those that killed hundreds of our brave service people in the mid-east. Or ram a truck loaded with amonium-nitrate. If the crazys want to kill, they will find a way.

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Posted : April 10, 2013 2:54 pm
AandA2VI
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Lmao LF. Your hilarious dude, have the most random analogies. Good times my man.

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Posted : April 10, 2013 2:55 pm
LiquidFluoride
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Lmao LF. Your hilarious dude, have the most random analogies. Good times my man.

Might be my bad on that one.. what I listed were ingredients for home-made explosives combined in the right way those items make a very devistating weapon agains human targets; I guess I assumed knowledge that I shouldn't have on that one 😉

those are the kinds of things we find planted in Mosque's in Iraq when I was there (a long with the IED's made from 155mm shells (that, BTW we supplied to the Iraqies in the Iraq -> Iran war.. kind of ironic that most IED's that kill us now are from weapons we GAVE to the iraqies back when we supported / trained /equiped them to fight iran)).

but I digress.. (haha)

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Posted : April 10, 2013 3:00 pm
VT2VI
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Watched a triple stack of 155's tear through an Abrams tank like butter. Not a pretty sight .

On to the knife theory OK so no one died, but those 14 are scarred for life from it. Alive yes, F'd up for sure. Yet homeboy will get cable TV and be out in ten years ..

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Posted : April 10, 2013 3:59 pm
Linda J
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I still think those 26 families would give anything to have their loved ones scarred but alive. The more deadly the instrument, the greater the causalities. And while few people will make a bomb or use an IED, many will use a gun.

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Posted : April 10, 2013 8:01 pm
speee1dy
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linda crazy people will still find a way to do there damage no matter what. the key point being that they are crazy-mental health help needed more than new gun laws when the others are not enforced

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Posted : April 10, 2013 8:06 pm
aussie
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Look here. What do you see?

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Posted : April 10, 2013 8:37 pm
noOne
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I took zoloft at one point. i elbowed my best friend by accident, in the eye. He cold cocked me, and I picked him up and threw him a good six feet into a wall. It took his brother, my brother and a friend to pull me off of him. The friend used a sleeper hold on me.

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Posted : April 10, 2013 10:56 pm
speee1dy
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alcohol did that to a female friend of mine. she went crazy and it took 6 men to hold her down. she was taken to the hospital.

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Posted : April 11, 2013 12:17 am
Ric
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Like so many other things in life, we just do the best we can with available resources. I think it is reasonable to require a person to undergo a background check before being allowed to pruchase a firearm - no exceptions. I don't think a database of gun owners is needed. If I ruled the world (and aren't you glad I don't), I would require some type of gun-safety training before buying. I would also require training before marriage and having kids.

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Posted : April 11, 2013 12:23 am
Linda J
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Ok, Ric is going to kill me (no gun required). The above post is mine and not his!!

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Posted : April 11, 2013 12:25 am
rotorhead
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I would also require training before marriage and having kids.

And a background check and permit?

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Topic starter Posted : April 11, 2013 12:59 am
Linda J
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ABSOLUTELY!! LOL.

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Posted : April 11, 2013 1:14 am
rotorhead
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The US Constitution says we have a right to own firearms, it doesn't say we have a right to have children.

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Topic starter Posted : April 11, 2013 1:33 am
Linda J
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I would beg to differ. We have a first amendment right to free speech, which,over the years, has been interpreted to include many forms of expression. I think the right to marry and have children are definitely in that category.

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Posted : April 11, 2013 4:29 am
conchadoo
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I would also require training before marriage and having kids.

And a background check and permit?

The Roman Catholic Church requires training already for marraige ("Pre Cana Conference") having sex , children and parenthood are part of the training. As far as a background checks limited too written proof certificates for baptism and confirmation.

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Posted : April 11, 2013 1:54 pm
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