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Spartygrad95
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January 25, 2016 10:21 pm  

So let's blame the war on drugs and not the "choices" people have made? People are responsible for their actions and choices, not the car, not the gun, not drugs. Please people, we need to take responsibility for our actions. Society as a whole blames everyone but themselves any more. Social media has made this more evident than ever.

The illegality of drugs leads to the violence. People will always do drugs. Empty the prisons of non violent drug offenders, tax the hell out of it, and use revenues to TREAT addicts not lock them up. This has nothing to do with personal responsibility here. It is an obvious failed war on drugs. Again sounds like we are blaming the victims here.


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January 25, 2016 11:04 pm  

So let's blame the war on drugs and not the "choices" people have made? People are responsible for their actions and choices, not the car, not the gun, not drugs. Please people, we need to take responsibility for our actions. Society as a whole blames everyone but themselves any more. Social media has made this more evident than ever.

The illegality of drugs leads to the violence. People will always do drugs. Empty the prisons of non violent drug offenders, tax the hell out of it, and use revenues to TREAT addicts not lock them up. This has nothing to do with personal responsibility here. It is an obvious failed war on drugs. Again sounds like we are blaming the victims here.

Are they victims or did they make a choice? They made a choice. I agree that the illegality leads to the violence, but people can make a choice to do or not do drugs. If we made them legal, we would have even more issues than we have now. Have you ever tried heroine? Probably one of the most addictive drugs out there, legalize that and see what happens. Think about it. My friends daughter was hooked on heroine at age 21, almost killed her. Luckily she had the support of friends and family and about $40,000 for rehab to get her off. I have another friends daughter pass away at 20 years old from drugs, dad found her in her bedroom. The mom will not even venture in that room any longer. They offered to help and support her, she lied to them stated she was better, but was still doing drugs. Legalizing drugs is not the answer. Support and getting people help, jobs and a reason for life is how to get them off drugs. I'm 48 and tried some drugs early in life, never anything serious, but made a choice to try and a choice that it wasn't for me. I do pretty well, happily married and look forward to each day, not looking for my next hook up, how i'm going to get the money for it (whether legal or not). When I hit bumps in the road of life, I overcome and move forward,, learn from my mistakes. I'm not perfect, have made some questionable choices, but always tried to make myself better. Based on what I read, these people weren't just strolling down a street enjoying life, they were looking for the next high and unfortunately their life was taken from them. Do I wish that, absolutely not, but again they made that choice, whether it was legal or not.


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January 25, 2016 11:26 pm  

Those anecdotes you have shared just show drug war is a failure.

http://mic.com/articles/110344/14-years-after-portugal-decriminalized-all-drugs-here-s-what-s-happening

This is real world evidence.


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January 26, 2016 12:36 am  

Regarding the original post, if you google the deceased male: Stephen Frank Coleman, you'll find a history of his arrests on STT and STX. I recall when he was here on STX burglarizing aplenty (my friends were victims) he was FINALLY arrested, I learned (through a Google search) he'd been arrested previously on STT. I was wondering why he wasn't locked up. To know that it went full circle repeatedly leads me to believe that the only way to stop this has happened. Case closed.

My condolences to his family.


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January 26, 2016 8:30 am  

Regarding the original post, if you google the deceased male: Stephen Frank Coleman, you'll find a history of his arrests on STT and STX. I recall when he was here on STX burglarizing aplenty (my friends were victims) he was FINALLY arrested, I learned (through a Google search) he'd been arrested previously on STT. I was wondering why he wasn't locked up. To know that it went full circle repeatedly leads me to believe that the only way to stop this has happened. Case closed.

My condolences to his family.

Bullets to the head meted out by a person on the street may be the type of justice you prefer but civiliEd people from civilized nations differ.


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January 26, 2016 8:38 am  

Bullets to the head meted out by a person on the street may be the type of justice you prefer but civiliEd people from civilized nations differ.

With all due respect, I wonder how your sentiments might differ were you and yours to be victims of criminals such as these.


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January 26, 2016 9:32 am  

Of robberies? I'm sorry the death penalty handed out by someone on the street is not justice.


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January 26, 2016 9:46 am  

Of robberies? I'm sorry the death penalty handed out by someone on the street is not justice.

I wasn't confining the comment to robberies. Nobody knows what these people got into aside from the known robberies they perpetrated. Aside from that, the point is that nobody has any idea at all how they will react in a situation until that situation affects them personally. One can speculate 'til the goat-dem come home but that's all.


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January 26, 2016 12:38 pm  

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January 26, 2016 2:03 pm  

Bullets to the head meted out by a person on the street may be the type of justice you prefer but civiliEd people from civilized nations differ.

Lining up two junkies and shooting them in the head execution-style is first degree murder. Although, the decorated Detective Alonzo from Training Day might disagree.

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January 26, 2016 2:38 pm  

Lining up two junkies and shooting them in the head execution-style is first degree murder.

Ergo one assumes that you're somehow privy to details of the killings and the motive which nobody else knows.


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January 26, 2016 2:48 pm  

The release said they were both shot in the head. Either the shooter is a trained Navy SEAL sniper or they were murdered premeditatedly (or both, hehe).

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January 26, 2016 5:25 pm  

Blaming the victims, sickening really. Of the 60 murders (that we know of) in the USVI in 2015 how many "deserved" it for you douche bags?


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January 26, 2016 5:34 pm  

The release said they were both shot in the head. Either the shooter is a trained Navy SEAL sniper or they were murdered premeditatedly (or both, hehe).

or he/she was close.... (I haven't read anything on this incident... the "journalists" here are lacking)

If he was an Operator it woulda been two in the chest, one the head... Fail drill FTW!

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January 26, 2016 5:39 pm  

Blaming the victims, sickening really. Of the 60 murders (that we know of) in the USVI in 2015 how many "deserved" it for you douche bags?

They do this every time. Either it's justified because the killing was "in a bad area," or because the person surely hung with the wrong crowd (even when it's prep school educated professionals like Christian-Hendrickson or the children of Senators being shot).

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I can rattle off the names of half a dozen people who were born and raised here, have excellent professional credentials and have tried unsuccessfully to come back and give back to the "their" community only to be shunned. If I as a mere "transplant" can come up with that number then I'm sure that number is infinitely greater.[/quote]


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January 26, 2016 6:22 pm  

Blaming the victims, sickening really.

You're certainly reading an awful lot into a few comments about the dead people's criminal past to reach the conclusion that others are "blaming the victims". If any point has been made it's the very obvious and very simple one that if you choose to indulge in criminal behavior there are consequences. Nothing more than that.


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January 26, 2016 6:31 pm  

Tried to stay out of this but I agree with OT. It wasn't a couple sitting on the beach in the afternoon sipping club soda. I mean WTF with the title Mono lol. You must work for the consortium with a title like that! HAHHA! I love you mono but would you cry on the gravestone of a child molester too? These are NOT innocent people.

JhonnyU "Play Stupid Games, Win Stupid Prizes" sums it up nicely.

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January 26, 2016 6:37 pm  

I don't care how many times they have been in and out of jail. They are still a person and do not deserve to be murdered or blamed for their murder.. Or if not outright blamed, just say, "well they were just meth heads". People care more about damned Mosquitos than humans. That is sickening to me


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January 26, 2016 6:44 pm  

Sparty I assume you've never had a criminal wreck your entire life by taking a family member from you. I have twice, and I can bet that you'd have a real different outlook when a criminal kills or rapes and kills one of your loved ones. Its a very different feeling, one which you would never understand unless you've been there. Do you believe in the death penalty? Just curious.

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Spartygrad95
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January 26, 2016 6:48 pm  

Sparty I assume you've never had a criminal wreck your entire life by taking a family member from you. I have twice, and I can bet that you'd have a real different outlook when a criminal kills or rapes and kills one of your loved ones. Its a very different feeling, one which you would never understand unless you've been there. Do you believe in the death penalty? Just curious.

Nope. Do not believe in death penalty. It doesn't work, it is racially flawed, and the moment you execute an innocent person your whole system of justice is trash. Have had family members violently attacked and sexually assaulted. Close family members. I will never blame a victim though. Ever. No matter how unredeeming I feel their life may be. If these two were indeed "meth heads" this is just another failure of a war on drugs.


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January 26, 2016 6:56 pm  

Again, where has anyone blamed the victims other than noting their well documented criminal activities and history?


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January 26, 2016 7:00 pm  

OT. When someone says they are just meth heads, they are career criminals, that is just a backhanded way of blaming them. I was born at night, just not last night.


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January 26, 2016 7:06 pm  

That's ridiculous.
They did have a criminal history.
It can't be ignored or cast aside and not mentioned.
It is probably the resulting cause of their deaths.
There's no backhanded intention.
It is fact.


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Spartygrad95
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January 26, 2016 7:16 pm  

That's ridiculous.
They did have a criminal history.
It can't be ignored or cast aside and not mentioned.
It is probably the resulting cause of their deaths.
There's no backhanded intention.
It is fact.

So their murders are somehow justified or less important to innocent people. It's a bias. We all have them. Just admit you all feel less empathy to a criminal being murdered and we can be done.


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January 26, 2016 7:23 pm  

I don't care how many times they have been in and out of jail. They are still a person and do not deserve to be murdered or blamed for their murder.. Or if not outright blamed, just say, "well they were just meth heads". People care more about damned Mosquitos than humans. That is sickening to me

This isn't a case where some worker subjects himself to risk in order to feed his family. This is a case of a couple of individuals that have made (from available information) a ton of bad decisions and finally the bill came do.


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