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Knowlesstak
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Velnor's gone now so his plan will just be shelved to collect dust.

The new guy will want to put his "plan" together so it looks like he's doing something, but, we all know he'll meet the same fate as Velnor in due course.

It's just a revolving door.

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Posted : July 12, 2021 8:39 am
rewired
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The strategic plan document is interesting, even though it's not really an effective strategic plan.

I found it interesting that, if you do the simple math, there were less than 113 calls per sworn officer last year - if only half of the sworn officers are responsible for responding to calls, there would be about 125 calls per officer per year, or less than one per work day... Maybe that explains why so many officers are seen shopping or parked at the office...

The document also appears to confirm that the Territory apears to have NO crime lab and VIPD leadership doesn't appear to think that having one is strategically important...

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Posted : July 12, 2021 12:39 pm
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@rewired 

This wouldn't surprise anyone whose lived here for a while.

We all know that law enforcement is essentially non-existent in the VI...and so do the criminals.

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Posted : July 13, 2021 8:02 am
Gator's Mom
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Posted by: @rewired

The strategic plan document is interesting, even though it's not really an effective strategic plan.

I found it interesting that, if you do the simple math, there were less than 113 calls per sworn officer last year - if only half of the sworn officers are responsible for responding to calls, there would be about 125 calls per officer per year, or less than one per work day... Maybe that explains why so many officers are seen shopping or parked at the office...

The document also appears to confirm that the Territory apears to have NO crime lab and VIPD leadership doesn't appear to think that having one is strategically important...

Do you have information on how many calls per day per sworn officer is the US average? Even better, how does the VIPD line up against peers of similar size and demographics?

 

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Posted : July 13, 2021 8:30 am
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The picture at the end shows strictly black faces.  They should be more diverse and racially inclusive. 

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Posted : July 13, 2021 9:14 am
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Posted by: @gators_mom
Posted by: @rewired

The strategic plan document is interesting, even though it's not really an effective strategic plan.

I found it interesting that, if you do the simple math, there were less than 113 calls per sworn officer last year - if only half of the sworn officers are responsible for responding to calls, there would be about 125 calls per officer per year, or less than one per work day... Maybe that explains why so many officers are seen shopping or parked at the office...

The document also appears to confirm that the Territory apears to have NO crime lab and VIPD leadership doesn't appear to think that having one is strategically important...

Do you have information on how many calls per day per sworn officer is the US average? Even better, how does the VIPD line up against peers of similar size and demographics?

 

@gators_mom

Interestingly enough, there's a benchmark study completed every year that compares approximately 60 departments across the US (this study has been done every year since 1977).

Here's a link to their 2020 report on 2019 data:

https://dw.opkansas.org/public/FileCabinets/2fa13812-70a3-4126-
848b-3a20df7175c3/Documents/10811/FileDownload?targetFileType=Auto&keepAnnotations=false

They also include data on crimes, population and area patrolled in various places.

The average calls per officer were 322 and an average of 451 calls for service were made per 1,000 citizens...

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Posted : July 13, 2021 3:45 pm
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Posted by: @rewired
Posted by: @gators_mom
Posted by: @rewired

The strategic plan document is interesting, even though it's not really an effective strategic plan.

I found it interesting that, if you do the simple math, there were less than 113 calls per sworn officer last year - if only half of the sworn officers are responsible for responding to calls, there would be about 125 calls per officer per year, or less than one per work day... Maybe that explains why so many officers are seen shopping or parked at the office...

The document also appears to confirm that the Territory apears to have NO crime lab and VIPD leadership doesn't appear to think that having one is strategically important...

Do you have information on how many calls per day per sworn officer is the US average? Even better, how does the VIPD line up against peers of similar size and demographics?

 

@gators_mom

Interestingly enough, there's a benchmark study completed every year that compares approximately 60 departments across the US (this study has been done every year since 1977).

Here's a link to their 2020 report on 2019 data:

https://dw.opkansas.org/public/FileCabinets/2fa13812-70a3-4126-
848b-3a20df7175c3/Documents/10811/FileDownload?targetFileType=Auto&keepAnnotations=false

They also include data on crimes, population and area patrolled in various places.

The average calls per officer were 322 and an average of 451 calls for service were made per 1,000 citizens...

Oh you had me at Overland Park, Kansas. Used to live there. They sent cops out to check to see if your pets had current licenses/tags. Yes, they did. I felt very safe. 

Very white, very wealthy. Second most populous city in KC area.

Carl Gerlach is OP mayor now - I think he played BBall at K-State with UVI's President David Hall. I can't think of anything else OP and the VI would have in common except this.

I can't open your link BTW.

 

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Posted : July 13, 2021 5:55 pm
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Posted by: @gators_mom
Posted by: @rewired
Posted by: @gators_mom
Posted by: @rewired

The strategic plan document is interesting, even though it's not really an effective strategic plan.

I found it interesting that, if you do the simple math, there were less than 113 calls per sworn officer last year - if only half of the sworn officers are responsible for responding to calls, there would be about 125 calls per officer per year, or less than one per work day... Maybe that explains why so many officers are seen shopping or parked at the office...

The document also appears to confirm that the Territory apears to have NO crime lab and VIPD leadership doesn't appear to think that having one is strategically important...

Do you have information on how many calls per day per sworn officer is the US average? Even better, how does the VIPD line up against peers of similar size and demographics?

 

@gators_mom

Interestingly enough, there's a benchmark study completed every year that compares approximately 60 departments across the US (this study has been done every year since 1977).

Here's a link to their 2020 report on 2019 data:

https://dw.opkansas.org/public/FileCabinets/2fa13812-70a3-4126-
848b-3a20df7175c3/Documents/10811/FileDownload?targetFileType=Auto&keepAnnotations=false

They also include data on crimes, population and area patrolled in various places.

The average calls per officer were 322 and an average of 451 calls for service were made per 1,000 citizens...

Oh you had me at Overland Park, Kansas. Used to live there. They sent cops out to check to see if your pets had current licenses/tags. Yes, they did. I felt very safe. 

Very white, very wealthy. Second most populous city in KC area.

Carl Gerlach is OP mayor now - I think he played BBall at K-State with UVI's President David Hall. I can't think of anything else OP and the VI would have in common except this.

I can't open your link BTW.

 

@gators_mom

For some reason, it didn't make the entire address a link....

https://dw.opkansas.org/public/FileCabinets/2fa13812-70a3-4126-848b-3a20df7175c3/Documents/10811/FileDownload?targetFileType=Auto&keepAnnotations=false

If this time doesn't work, you might have to copy and paste the entire link.

 

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Posted : July 13, 2021 8:02 pm
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