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terry
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August 3, 2009 4:45 am  

I don't think California will be able to do away with welfare.
Several years ago on 60 Minutes, they ran an segment about a town somewhere in the mid west that did away with "welfare" and instead had "workfare". Everyone who received a check had to do some type of community work. Everyone loved it. The people who paid taxes so the others could get "workfare" and the recipients who received the checks as it made them feel like they were earning their check. Some left wing liberal sued and the courts decided that the people were being discriminated against because if they lived anywhere else in the country they could just sit on their a**es and collect a check, so this town had to eliminate their program.

As far as children are concerned. I believe Newt had the right idea. If they can't afford to have the children without public assistance, the children would be put in schools / homes and be cared for properly.

When we had our child , I didn't get a raise. One was all we could afford, so one was all we had.

I also think that anyone on welfare should not have the right to vote. If you want to vote, get a job and get off of welfare! The worthless will always vote in someone who will give them something for nothing and it just gets worse and worse!


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August 3, 2009 4:57 am  

tam dogs are employee's,they get paid to work,aqnd now we leave the little one outside so she can chase people off


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Lizard
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August 3, 2009 7:56 am  

One could make a Horror movie with the content of this thread!


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Edward
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August 3, 2009 8:30 am  

I love this conversation:

At a recent town-hall meeting in suburban Simpsonville, a man stood up and told Rep. Robert Inglis (R-S.C.) to “keep your government hands off my Medicare.”

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/28/why-americans-hate-single-payer-insurance/


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August 3, 2009 8:57 am  

thank god for the ignorant filler people that vote, i call the ignorant "filler" people because all they do is take up space and vote,you know like the christian "rightwing" but i guess at least they pay taxes so the poor can breed,lol i was somewhere the other day and the tv was on and octomom was on and i said do we really need to watch this brood mare


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Jules
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August 3, 2009 9:46 am  

Edward,

RE the NYTimes blog you cited, I think that this person's comment is more accurate than the Krugman's blog:

From comment #112

Please consider the following blog of htp://usturpin.wordpress.com/harry_and_sally_go_to_washington/ as an additional data point as you solve the healthcare crisis….

I offer up a view of my experience living and being hospitalized in the UK where there really is a single payer. In the US, the government pays over 1.2 Trillion of our 2.2 T — about 40% for care but Medicare and Medicaid do not :

1) ration care with draconian cost algorithms

2) manage fraud - over $ 100B in 2008

3) drive healthy lifestyles or provide incentives to manage
chronic conditions to keep them stable

4) Pay their fair share - these plans serially underpay and cost shifts to the private sector. As private insurance pays more they allow higher quality docs to stay in business provided they charge more to insured and uninsured patients to compensate for the serial under-reimbursement of Medicare and Medicaid. These are all hidden taxes folks.

I voted for Obama. I am a center left guy but I have been in healthcare for too long and know Americans too well to believe that this first generation is going to tolerate the price we must pay to moderate GDP spending from 16% to 12%. We can reform the system without moving to a single payer. It will take enormous will - - but less consumer will and more regulatory will.

Disease is the enemy - let’s not lose sight of that. Once we succeed in covering 50M Americans, we must have the will to insist they become responsible for their health and lifestyle. That is the third rail of politics and the private sector is more apt to achieve this population risk management than the government.

Sorry Mr Krugman, love your stuff but can’t eat what you are selling today. l
— Michael Turpin

The link in this comment has a typo. The link, which is worth reading, is at http://usturpin.wordpress.com/2009/05/15/harry-and-louise-go-to-washington/


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Irijah
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August 3, 2009 1:19 pm  

terry said...

"I also think that anyone on welfare should not have the right to vote. If you want to vote, get a job and get off of welfare! The worthless will always vote in someone who will give them something for nothing and it just gets worse and worse!"

why don't you just go out in your yard shed and dig out your ropes, hood and sheet, get on your donkey and ride across the island stringing people up...that would be just as ignorant as your above statement proves and just as predictable.


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terry
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August 3, 2009 1:30 pm  

Irijah said

"why don't you just go out in your yard shed and dig out your ropes, hood and sheet, get on your donkey and ride across the island stringing people up...that would be just as ignorant as your above statement proves and just as predictable."

Why do YOU always make this a race thing???
The reports that I have seen says that there are more Caucasians on welfare than any other race.


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Irijah
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August 3, 2009 1:37 pm  

not a race thing.
they strung up white folks too.
your comment was ignorant, debasing to human rights and shameful.
again, i support national health...which would mean that the prez and congress and the house would get the same care as their constituents.


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Lizard
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August 3, 2009 2:35 pm  

Irijah,
That's not Fair. If ones rides a donkey across the island, the worthless wouldn't be able to identify which one was the Jack ass.


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August 4, 2009 3:08 am  

yada yada yada.............


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