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Cory
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Progress can come out of this..!!! Although it may take a while...hehe

http://stcroixsource.com/content/news/local-news/2009/08/20/police-converge-senate-protest-peace-officer-bill

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Topic starter Posted : August 20, 2009 3:38 pm
Betty
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What progress do you see coming out of that?? Sounds like they want it to remain the same. I take it back, they feel they deserve a raise.

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Posted : August 20, 2009 6:10 pm
Uttica
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Typical, instead of the VIPD actually going out to do their jobs, 60 will crash a hearing that has nothing to do with them and sit around for 2+ hours. Each day these guys look more and more a joke.

If they actually cared, they would quickly usher in the bill and get the ATF back in the Territory.

The only thing that they are afraid of is the FEDS finding out about their corrupt ways.

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Posted : August 20, 2009 9:37 pm
divinggirl
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The only thing that they are afraid of is the FEDS finding out about their corrupt ways.

BINGO!!

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Posted : August 20, 2009 9:42 pm
trw
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i think it would be interesting if washington dc came crashing down here like london did to some of their islands,oh the howling and i'd love to see that

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Posted : August 21, 2009 2:13 am
Dan.Stutzman
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I live here near DC... do you not think it is just as corrupt? My wife's English family and my German family thinks the US is going to be a 3rd world country in the next 30 years because of corruption. Unfortunately our politicians have been bought and paid for by the highest bidder and despite what the denizens would like, nothing is going to change until there is no middle class, only the have's and the have not's.

It's why I'm leaving.

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Posted : August 21, 2009 9:48 am
Betty
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lol...you think the US is corrupt wait till you move to the very small insular islands you have on your list. You haven't seen anything yet. You are choosing to move to 3rd world countries.

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Posted : August 21, 2009 11:11 am
terry
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I would not put the USVI in the third world catagory. Maybe second world.

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Posted : August 21, 2009 1:38 pm
Dan.Stutzman
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lol...you think the US is corrupt wait till you move to the very small insular islands you have on your list. You haven't seen anything yet. You are choosing to move to 3rd world countries.

At least with the islands I know what I'm getting into.

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Posted : August 21, 2009 1:41 pm
Dan.Stutzman
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I would not put the USVI in the third world catagory. Maybe second world.

I believe the phrase is "near world".

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Posted : August 21, 2009 1:42 pm
stiphy
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Coming from DC myself I always say that I don't think our politicians are more corrupt down here, I just think they're more honest about it 🙂

Sean

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Posted : August 21, 2009 1:45 pm
trw
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please, it's a third world banana republic down here and the only thing that saves us from anarchy is the us flag, if not for that these islands would be another haiti

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Posted : August 21, 2009 2:07 pm
Dan.Stutzman
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please, it's a third world banana republic down here and the only thing that saves us from anarchy is the us flag, if not for that these islands would be another haiti

This is the 3rd time I have heard this phrase today concerning USVI. A mate of mine just got back from a cruise and they stopped in STT. He was a bit knackered at the time and he thought that STT was Haiti until he saw the US Flag.

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Posted : August 21, 2009 2:36 pm
trw
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i was told by a 40 year resident of fsted that back in the day if a down islander was walking down the street and came across a crucian the down islander would step in the street to let the crucian pass, that kind of arrogance needs to be crushed,stamped and banished,and you still see that arrogance today, hell we all saw it at the constitutional convention

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Posted : August 21, 2009 2:46 pm
Betty
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At least with the islands I know what I'm getting into.

Just wanted to make sure if you were innocent enough to not think any nation's capitol didn't have corruption, but then again you're taking politcal advice from the Germans so I don't know what to tell ya.

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Posted : August 21, 2009 3:12 pm
Dan.Stutzman
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At least with the islands I know what I'm getting into.

Just wanted to make sure if you were innocent enough to not think any nation's capitol didn't have corruption, but then again you're taking politcal advice from the Germans so I don't know what to tell ya.

Well I don't know what to say about the German ideal. One, I am a German expat. Two, the German people have a very sound government with an emphasis on a very high quality of life, as shown in "Best places to live" lists every year. Third, the German people are an amazing and adaptive people and wouldn't be in nearly the pickle they are in if they would have controlled immigration throughout the 90's and the early 00's. Unfortunately in their attempt to be the Samaritan's of Central Europe, they bankrupted their Social system, collapsed the Deutsche Mark and indirectly spurned the creation of the Euro.

As for governments, I prefer to the follow the transparency model used by the Kiwi's (New Zealand), where I spent nearly 15 years of my life growing up and attending Uni. My wife, on the other hand is English and quite involved in Politics. She wrote extensively and was part of the Tony Blair's "New Labour" Movement and greatly misses the lively debates of the House of Commons.

As for the islands. We are fully aware of what we are getting into in regards to the corruption. There are islands, like Curucao or St. Marteens which are not nearly corrupt as TC, St. Thomas, Haiti, or PR.

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Posted : August 22, 2009 2:52 am
Trade
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You are surely joking about the Netherlands Antilles being much less corrupt than the USVI's. SURELY, you jest.

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Posted : August 22, 2009 3:01 am
Dan.Stutzman
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You are surely joking about the Netherlands Antilles being much less corrupt than the USVI's. SURELY, you jest.

I have been told the corruption level there, as well as Aruba, is much less than say St. Martins which is also Dutch. If I am wrong, please let me know.

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Posted : August 22, 2009 3:11 am
Michaelds9
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You are surely joking about the Netherlands Antilles being much less corrupt than the USVI's. SURELY, you jest.

das ist schade

Michael Schaaf

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Posted : August 22, 2009 3:13 am
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In response to Terry's 9:38am post:

Terry, we are in a third world country down here.

Look at the piles of trash in neighborhoods. Look at the PILES of tires at our landfills even closer, as those tires left there by our Waste Management Authority are breeding grounds for Dengue Fever and Malaria....and those piles of everything just grow and multiply month by month...

Look at out Governor...watch him as he spends money on his personal property while we are in a massive decrease of public funds. WHAT exactly is he building his fortress for???

Why do we have a police commissioner that responds to invitational opportunities, and after speaking calls everyone stupid and incompetent?

Why do we have such idiotic behavior from people like Bert Bryant, encouraging modern day "fire burns" when all it actually does is ignite the youth to act out in increasing violence day by day...hoping and waiting for that moment to demonstrate no social advancement?

Why did our new police commissioner change the address of Crime Stoppers to 43 Mars Hill?

Why did we lose 7 out of the 11 newly transplanted police officers from stateside?

Why do we in the community know that drugs are run into the island via Frederiksted, but none of our police seem to acknowledge it?

Why do citizens in our community wait for better days, fully knowing that they must partake in positive action for positive results?

Yes, we live in a third world country....like it or not

Yes, there will be more to come. The time is now to end this crap that has been going on for so long.

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Posted : August 22, 2009 5:43 am
Trade
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I have to get ready for my flight but I'm starting to think someone's a troll. Sint Maarten is Dutch with the other half being French St. Martin. Your "friend" who came here & thought St. Thomas was worse than Haiti has obviously never been to Haiti.

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Posted : August 22, 2009 11:29 am
HBIC
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This guy is getting his kicks by getting everyone riled up; let's leave him alone and hope he goes away soon.

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Posted : August 22, 2009 12:12 pm
East Ender
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I am glad to see that the legislature was doing something useful in banning machine guns. Now we don't have any worries! 😉

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Posted : August 22, 2009 12:36 pm
Betty
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That article gave me a chuckle too. Since hardly anyone ever gets convicted, I don't see the point of tougher sentencing.

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Posted : August 22, 2009 1:17 pm
Lizard
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Michael,
I don't understand Ihre erklarung dafur ist schade, konnen sie auf dieser das ist keine aufwardige installation.

Trade,
I agree with you 100%. He gave his game up when he requested no straw man argument on another thread.

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Posted : August 22, 2009 1:31 pm
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