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MissJustice
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At this moment, Senator Fricks's employee arrested as a sexual predator. What is that Crime Stoppers motto again, Judy? "If you know something, say something."

Too bad he didn't get enough good spankings when he was a bad as a kid, he might not have grown up to be a criminal today. A legislator would do well to keep this in mind.

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Topic starter Posted : February 19, 2014 6:19 pm
Linda J
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Yeah, spankings as child will show them! Or how about love and attention and direction.

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Posted : February 19, 2014 7:26 pm
MissJustice
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Or both.

It's called the carrots and stick approach.

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Topic starter Posted : February 19, 2014 7:30 pm
JulieKay
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I find it funny that I'm sure he WAS spanked as a child and turned out to be a criminal, just like just about every criminal currently in the USVI prison system. Hm, and spanking children MORE would fix that.....hmm.....

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Posted : February 19, 2014 7:33 pm
MissJustice
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1. You are sure he was spanked because....? He told you? His parents told you?
2. And the key word, was he spanked enough?

If you can answer those questions, then his case would be evidence against.
Meanwhile, the bible is very clear about love, praise rewards, responsible discipline, and yes, the rod.

Fact. The VI public school system took out corporal punishment in the middle seventies. Check the ages of the prisoners. And how do you know the prisoners there were spanked or spanked enough in the complete framework of love and responsible discipline? Maybe they were generally exceptions.

And it is very interesting that the same senator that wants no corporal punishment as part of responsible discipline wants to incarcerate more given her push to increase penalties and criminalize certain activity.

So let them run wild when they are young so we can imprison them later? I favor the other approach

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Topic starter Posted : February 19, 2014 7:39 pm
JulieKay
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1. You are sure he was spanked because....? He told you? His parents told you?
2. And the key word, was he spanked enough?

If you can answer those questions, then his case would be evidence against.
Meanwhile, the bible is very clear about love, praise rewards, responsible discipline, and yes, the rod.

Fact. The VI public school system took out corporal punishment in the middle seventies. Check the ages of the prisoners. And how do you know the prisoners there were spanked or spanked enough in the complete framework of love and responsible discipline? Maybe they were generally exceptions.

And it is very interesting that the same senator that wants no corporal punishment as part of responsible discipline wants to incarcerate more given her push to increase penalties and criminalize certain activity.

So let them run wild when they are young so we can imprison them later? I favor the other approach

There was a whole long thread a week or so ago about corporal punishment in the schools that addresses all you've said here. You should know that the vast majority of studies do not support spanking as an effective discipline technique - and I don't discuss with people who take the Bible literally.

I don't have the energy to go through this discussion again, if you're interested you can look it up. Just search "spanking" and you'll find plenty of threads on the forum, including that one.

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Posted : February 19, 2014 7:53 pm
sunshinefun
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WHOA...Whoa...back to the original post!!!

Who was arrested from Senator Frick's office???

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Posted : February 19, 2014 9:30 pm
JulieKay
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WHOA...Whoa...back to the original post!!!

Who was arrested from Senator Frick's office???

Thank you. 🙂

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Posted : February 19, 2014 9:56 pm
speee1dy
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please dont put his being a sexual predator on the back of spanking. spanking does not make you a sexual deviant.

and as for spanking, i can bet you that the majority of prisoners have not been spanked. just like the majority of law abiding citizens over a certain age have been.

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Posted : February 20, 2014 12:52 am
JulieKay
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Sigh...

The Influence of Corporal Punishment on Crime

""This, it now appears is the wrong question. We should be asking about sequence. Parents of delinquents, all of them, report physical beating in the first ten to twelve years of the child's life, but rarely thereafter. They "wash their hands" of the kid because "nothing works." Then the judge, finding that the boy has no supervision, denounces permissiveness."

"The recidivist male delinquent who has never been exposed to the belt, extension cord or fist at some time in his life is virtually non-existent. As the severity of corporal punishment in the delinquent's developmental history increases, so does the probability that he will engage in a violent act."

The Center for Effective Discipline

Paddling Proponents Say: "If kids were paddled more, they wouldn’t end up in jail as adults."

Fact: School corporal punishment is associated with higher incarceration rates of the adult population. Eight of the top ten paddling states are in the top ten states with the highest incarceration rates.

I can find lots, lots more.

But this thread is about Senator Frick's employee being a sexual predator, which has nothing to do with spanking.

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Posted : February 20, 2014 1:01 am
janeinstx
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Does anyone know who yet? Did someone in the office know something and said something?

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Posted : February 20, 2014 1:14 am
jwsommer
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News from today:

Bill No. 30-0136 not only passed from the Committee on Education and Workforce with a 6-1 vote ... but a vote was taken and approved for it to pass Rules Committee and go straight to the next Full Session!

Testimony today from UVI President Dr. David Hall, STT/STJ Superintendent Janette Smith-Barry and a poised and courageous young man who is a student at STX Central High School, Mr. Josh Murray.

Thanks to everyone who signed the petition and shared their opinions with our legislators. Between the evidence and our strong positive voices, we'll keep improving our community!

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Posted : February 20, 2014 1:48 am
Exit Zero
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Who is Senator Frick ?? I watch the Legislature broadcast regurly and have never heard the name?

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Posted : February 20, 2014 3:12 am
rotorhead
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Senator Judy Buckley. ex-Fricks.

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Posted : February 20, 2014 3:47 am
speee1dy
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believe it or not i am NOT in favor of corporal punishment in schools, so am very glad that things are looking up

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Posted : February 20, 2014 12:07 pm
speee1dy
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http://www.newsmax.com/US/spanking-studies-children-spock/2010/01/07/id/345669

this is my last take on spanking for this thread.

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Posted : February 20, 2014 12:17 pm
sunshinefun
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The Avis says it was Chris Mitchell (a regular poster here on the board) who was arrested for not registering as a sex offender. Apparently he had been convicted in military court of an indecent act on a child under the age of 16 back in 1998 which he served his time for. He has two children on STX (maybe others in elsewhere); a teenage daughter and a younger son.

I know him, his wife and children personally as I'm certain many on the board do. He has shown himself to be a good person and a hard worker. He's obviously made a huge mistake by not registering but I would not regard him as a sexual deviant.

I'm sad thinking about how this will affect his family and their ability to earn a living here on STX as his wife works for Senator Sanes, not to mention the hell his children will have to go through at school.

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Posted : February 20, 2014 12:18 pm
mtdoramike
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The problem with children today is the parents aren't involved enough in their lives and want to be their childrens friend rather than their parents spanking or no spanking. Might I add here that this is a sex crime and spanking in no way caused or would have cured this problem unless he liked to be spanked and got off on it.

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Posted : February 20, 2014 12:39 pm
speee1dy
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sunshine fun, thanks and you are correct ( i do not know him )

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Posted : February 20, 2014 1:39 pm
Alana33
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I am sorry to hear about Chris as he is a great contributer to this forum, has great knowledge and information that he is always willing to share. I do not know him personally. I haven't read the Avis article (nor any other, at this time) about his arrest and prefer to withhold any speculation or rush to judgement on this matter.

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Posted : February 20, 2014 2:06 pm
speee1dy
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I DID READ THE article, he did fail to register and someone turned him in. i am sorry for his family. i do not know him either but this has to be hard on him and his family.

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Posted : February 20, 2014 3:02 pm
DonExodus
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1. You are sure he was spanked because....? He told you? His parents told you?
2. And the key word, was he spanked enough?

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic and trolling us, or if you really think you're presenting a valid argument.

Being spanked has nothing to do with being a sexual predator. They are completely unrelated.
Studies have shown repeatedly that spanking as an institution has no benefit, and actually harms (studies, as in science and shit).
I personally have zero problem with spanking in the home, but what happens in the VI blatantly crosses a line, and I'm not sure if you get the paper, but something clearly isn't working.

Fact. The VI public school system took out corporal punishment in the middle seventies. Check the ages of the prisoners.

Fact: the average global temperature has gone up while the prevalence of pirates has decreased- therefore pirates prevent global warming. You mean to tell me that the prison system is full of the demographic responsible for the vast majority of crime? Shocking.

Meanwhile, the bible is very clear about love, praise rewards, responsible discipline, and yes, the rod.

The bible is also very clear that bats are not mammals, slavery is perfectly fine, and it's ok to stone children for talking back. Considering that you're citing a bronze age book written by a group of barely literate goat herders as evidence, its not very difficult to see why your critical thinking skills are the way they are.

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Posted : February 20, 2014 3:27 pm
MissJustice
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So his alleged crime was failure to register as a sex offender? And WE should be sorry for his failure to obey the law? There are a whole bunch of "nice" guys in jail and a bunch of guys who did things before 1998 and almost all inmates have family. If he is convicted, he will be the same as they.

"If you know something, say something." Consistency is key.
Judy poses as the zero tolerance senator. If failure to register is a crime, it is a crime. Period. No excuses. No sympathy. Unless you empty the jail for everyone.

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Topic starter Posted : February 20, 2014 7:54 pm
Linda J
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Disagree with this law. After you do your time, it should be over. Do you know that you can be considered a sex offender for urinating in public?

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Posted : February 20, 2014 8:22 pm
STX46
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Him employment with Judy was terminated today. From the article in the Avis today, he lied on his employment application.

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Posted : February 20, 2014 8:28 pm
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