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SistaIrijah
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greetings betty

why do you refer to ones that partake of marijuana as addicts.
i have never seen anyone that is addicted to marijuana.
it is a rather narrow stance to take on an HERB.

guidance

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Posted : November 9, 2008 6:56 am
sundevil
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Betty did I ever even once say that I use it? No. So please don't talk down to me and tell me not to live where I chose or that I'm an addict. Its people like you that should get a life and quit worrying about what people do in the privacy of their own homes. How does someone smoking MJ in their house effect you in anyway? And also do some research MJ has no addictive characteristics so it wouldn't be possible to be an addict. By ending the probation on a drug that doesn't hurt anyone the United States would save an estimated $7.7 Billion each year on Law Enforcement and if it was taxed similar to alcohol or tobacco it would create revenues around $6.2 Billion each year that would put an additional $13.9 Billion in to the US economy each year. Not to mention that it would reduce the need for many pharmaceutical drugs that often times have very harmful side affects and can be very addictive.

http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/MironReport.pdf

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Topic starter Posted : November 9, 2008 8:04 am
sundevil
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People like you always talk about legalizing it but it never happen because I don't believe a bunch of addicts will ever be motivated enough to get the laws changed. Until you do its illegal and I don't want you here. It causes nothing but crime and grief here. Its not good for anyone why in the world to you want to make it legal??

Also I'm sorry if you believe that people don't organize for change there are now 13 states that have either decriminalized MJ or have medical usage laws on the books. Please inform yourself before you decide to speak on a subject that you clearly know nothing about.

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Topic starter Posted : November 9, 2008 8:12 am
Trade
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Perhaps you should move to one of those enlightened states?

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Posted : November 9, 2008 8:53 am
Trade
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http://www.uhs.wisc.edu/display_story.jsp?id=736&cat_id=38

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Posted : November 9, 2008 8:59 am
sundevil
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Perhaps you should move to one of those enlightened states?

I think that I should be able to live where I chose. I will work there for change as I do where I live now.

Topic starter Posted : November 9, 2008 9:14 am
Lizard
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MARIJUANA MYTHS & FACTS

http:www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/publications/marijuana_myths_facts/myth2.pdf

This is only a small amount of information that's available on the subject. So maybe one should look at the other side of the coin! I don't think our founding fathers meant the same happiness, whatca think?

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Posted : November 9, 2008 10:56 am
islandtyme
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MJ was also made illegal because those evil mexicans were getting poor white girls high! Oh and the terrible blacks at the jazz clubs............. It wasn't about addiction, it was about race!!
Now the big drug companies want to keep it illegal in order to keep pumping us with zoloft, prozac & other antidepressants.
And before you hate it, ask a cancer patient if their quality of life is better. Helps ease nausea, increases appetites & a natural antidepressant.
Down side is our youth is out there selling VS getting an education. Another reason to decriminalizing it..............perhaps "change'" will come to this mountain too...................................

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Posted : November 9, 2008 11:05 am
Lizard
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"YIKES"

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Posted : November 9, 2008 11:16 am
Trade
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"Look at who wrote that article. It is a doctor that runs a drug treatment center. Do you think that he might have a vested interest in telling people that MJ is addictive"

And look who wrote the other links? Mine was a university site. If you want to work to change any laws down here IF you ever come down, that's fine but don't break the existing ones. We have enough lawbreakers here.

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Posted : November 9, 2008 12:32 pm
Trade
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And I can assure you Betty has more real info on this than any of us here on this forum.

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Posted : November 9, 2008 12:35 pm
no0ne
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Sorry to disagree with you Betty, but I have created some of my best work stoned on MJ. I worked for Tambrands for a while, and I was stoned every day I went there from the interview on. I was so good that the VP (guy in charge of Tambrands information center) told my boss I was the only one he wanted to work on his system.

One problem was that they had was $4.5m worth of custom computers to run the assembly line machines, that would not hook up to our Token Ring network. Within 15 minutes I figured out how to get these machines online. The head engineer started jumping up and down and was trying to hug me.

These things are minor compared to my latest work, which is summation of my 35+ years computer experience. For some reason, marijuana unlocks my brain.

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Posted : November 9, 2008 1:23 pm
no0ne
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And I can assure you Betty has more real info on this than any of us here on this forum.

I have to dispute this. There is not enough information to come to a conclusion on the subject of MJ, because people (companies, government, individuals, etc) are not allowed to conduct studies, and there is a lot of FUD put out by the government.

If we are ever to learn the truth, we need to do scientifically sound studies.

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Posted : November 9, 2008 1:31 pm
echogirl
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Betty,

I agree with you 100%!

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Posted : November 9, 2008 1:58 pm
Ronnie
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Marijuana is an entry level drug. You can use it if you like, it is illegal. You might move on to worse drugs, Who knows? The fact still remains, it's illegal.
Blood is shed over this drug as innocent as you feel it is. From the planters who grow it, to the mobs who control it's export, to the shippers, to the street level drug dealers, people get killed. Maybe if you do get it legalized all the bloodshed will be over, and the novelty of it being black market will wear off, and only the few morons that thinks it's cool to smoke will smoke it. Good luck.
To quote Bill Cosby on the subject when someone said, "It enhances your personality" he said "great, but what if you're an asshole? " These seem to be the people I run into!

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Posted : November 9, 2008 2:12 pm
no0ne
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Plenty of smart and accomplished people have smoked/do smoke MJ:

Barack Obama, president-elect. Bill Clinton, 42nd president of the U.S. John Kerry, U.S. Senator and 2004 Democratic nominee for president. John Edwards, multi-millionaire, former U.S. Senator, and 2004 Democratic nominee for vice president. Sarah Palin, governor of Alaska, 2008 Republican nominee for vice president. British Home Secretary Jacqui Smith, Transport Secretary Ruth Kelly, and and Chancellor Alistair Darling. Josh Howard, NBA all-star. New York Governor David Paterson. Former Vice President, Nobel Peace Prize winner, and Oscar winner Al Gore. Former Sen. Bill Bradley, who smoked while playing professional basketball. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, and former New York Governor George Pataki. Billionaire and New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg.

Do not forget Carl Sagan was a daily smoker too =)

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Posted : November 9, 2008 2:35 pm
Lizard
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Hey NoOne,
You forgot Charles Manson, and the Mason Family according to Court Records they did their best work stoned.

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Posted : November 9, 2008 2:49 pm
Ronnie
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So what? Has nothing to do with what I said about the bloodshed. That is my concers as well as it being an entry level drug that one can move on from to more potent and addicting drugs.

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Posted : November 9, 2008 2:51 pm
Trade
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Bill Clinton, 42nd president of the U.S

He didn't inhale. 😉

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Posted : November 9, 2008 3:02 pm
sundevil
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And look who wrote the other links? Mine was a university site. If you want to work to change any laws down here IF you ever come down, that's fine but don't break the existing ones. We have enough lawbreakers here.

And look at where all the info came from that I gave. Its all from government studies and university studies compiled it to one place. My info is not coming from drug dealers. They wouldn't want it to be legal anyways they would lose money. The national drug council doesn't want it to be legal because they would lose a large percentage of their budget. Pharmaceuticals don't want it to be legal because it would reduce then need for many of the drugs they manufacture and they would lose profits. The real motives for making MJ illegal were purely race related when it started.

Please watch this movie it is very interesting and I believe it will open a lot of eyes on America's prohibition on drugs. ( There are 8 links to watch the entire movie I have put them in order)

(1) http://www.videosift.com/video/American-Drug-War-The-Last-White-Hope-Full-Movie-1
(2) http://www.livevideo.com/video/ConspiracyCentral/3B88BAA79BF64D6AA3616385B9FBE3A4/american-drug-war-the-last-w.aspx
(3) http://www.livevideo.com/video/ConspiracyCentral/4A1CBFFC19D8439BAD74B21EC65D2917/american-drug-war-the-last-w.aspx
(4) http://www.livevideo.com/video/ConspiracyCentral/506D157D5798438F903CA5F2DD62A61D/american-drug-war-the-last-w.aspx
(5) http://www.livevideo.com/video/ConspiracyCentral/13F5E7080B1F4861BC8045CAB5D367BF/american-drug-war-the-last-w.aspx
(6) http://www.livevideo.com/video/ConspiracyCentral/DCE0338C52364065960E794BFF376C83/american-drug-war-the-last-w.aspx
(7) http://www.livevideo.com/video/ConspiracyCentral/21CF6A1E665144F4B4AEC862806C69E4/american-drug-war-the-last-w.aspx
(8) http://www.livevideo.com/video/ConspiracyCentral/3E0306D4EF124CF1B1F45EE6C7F6DD1B/american-drug-war-the-last-w.aspx

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Topic starter Posted : November 9, 2008 5:37 pm
East Ender
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sundevil: Methinks thou art a troll. 😛

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Posted : November 9, 2008 6:14 pm
sundevil
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sundevil: Methinks thou art a troll. 😛

You think I'm a troll?

Ok I had to look up the meaning of troll on urban dictionary to get what you mean. How am I not backing up what I have to say? I have a position on this argument and I am refuting what people have to say with facts. If you feel that having a debate on the MJ laws is disruptive or harmful to this forum that please bring it up with with the admins of this site and if they feel the same way I am sure they will delete this thread and ask me not to bring the subject up again. I do not believe that having a debate on the laws in the VI is wrong in anyway.

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Topic starter Posted : November 9, 2008 6:22 pm
Sabrina
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I almost didn't read this topic because I do not use marijuana, nor do I care who does. I was surprised by the amount of passion it created.
I don't think because someone smokes MJ, they will eventually become a dangerous drug user, any more than someone who enjoys a glass of wine is going to become an alcoholic. Personally I can't stand smoke, whether it be a cigarette, pipe, cigar or MJ, I don't think it can be good for your lungs. But to each his own, there are plenty of bad habits that are bad for your health. I spent some time living in Amsterdam, and that is one city where it is safe to be out any hour of the night - having MJ readily available definitely hasn't caused a high crime rate there.

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Posted : November 9, 2008 7:30 pm
Trade
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Sundevil, you know it's illegal here & what does all this debate have to do with moving to the VI? This is a relocation board, not a platform for you. You're not here yet & you want to change things. Be my guest but this forum isn't the place for it.

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Posted : November 9, 2008 7:53 pm
East Ender
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You asked a simple question about the law and the enforcement of the law here in the VI. You have since stirred the pot vigorously with links that have no relevance to the law and its enforcement here. That is trollish behavior, meh son.;)

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Posted : November 9, 2008 8:02 pm
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