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chockman
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Ok, MS Information. You Mam are a scoundrel and a scaly wag,just kidding. How dare you you break out $.50.00 cent words that I have to turn to Websters dictionary for. " SEPTUAGENARIAN " My God I have never heard that word in my life,that I can remember anyway.
You are correct that Nancy does in fact look good for a SEPTUAGENARIAN,back at you with that $.50.00 cent word. I have a liking for a strong Woman,who can speak her voice. Just do your selves a favor and don't try to push me around,the less we have to prove to each other the better.
My only problem with Nancy is the fact that every time she opens her mouth and words stumble out,it really makes me tense and cringing spells occur,she will never be the great speaker that the President is by the way and she does in fact look a little like plastic. I would much rather see her grow old gracefully and not see, super tight stretch marks across her face.

This is strictly just my opinion,and we all know what they are really worth. COME ON NOVEMBER,HURRY UP AND GET HERE. Can we agree to disagree ???

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Posted : March 23, 2010 1:40 pm
limetime2
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I guess vicious attacks on our President and his supporters are OK in America as long as you agree with them... but not OK if you don't. People had no problem with BUSH bashing,that was not shameful... that was justified... but OBAMA bashing.. or PELOSI bashing.. . my my... that is shameful!

Please... Everyone know this healthcare bill is flawed... even those who voted on it. Its just a political power play and it will go back and forth for years with the government increasing its take every step along the way and increasing our taxes to pay for it. Do we really think that "winning" by 52% of the votes represents the "majority" of the people in a significant enough way to justify passing a law of this magnitude? Wouldn't it be better to have come up with something that 75, or 90, or more percent of the people could get behind? And then build on it? The US government is no better than our local government, and no different. Its all about corruption , power, and screwing the taxpayers while making it look like they are working in our best interest. Sadly... I don't see a light at the end of this tunnel....

I have no children.... so my children won't be suffering in the future because of this law... but I feel sad for all the future generations that will. Just like Social Security... the early ones in will reap the benefits... even those who'd never paid (were taxed ) into it...like me.... I'll benefit from this and if I was a me me person I would be thrilled with it. The later generations will be the ones that suffer though, and that makes me sad. It might appear to be good for me now, but its not the right thing for our nation. Fortunatly I won't be around to witness the future fall out.

Free housing, free food, free healthcare... hey people, stop working... Uncle Sam is gonna take care of you!

Free Speech and personal opinion has EVERY place in America. I just expressed mine. 🙂 I don't feel the least bit ashamed.

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Posted : March 23, 2010 1:53 pm
chockman
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Limetime2. You state you case very well. Keep on speaking.

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Posted : March 23, 2010 2:07 pm
Paula
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Strong women don't intimidate me at all. However, strong women who I don't agree with politically and aren't listening to the majority of the peoples desires (according to all the polls) DO. Even the CBS poll came out stating that she now only has 11% approval rating from the American people! 11%! If this was Fox News I know people would doubt it, but CBS has been shown to have a more liberal slant and this was from their poll. I could care less if she's 'strong' or not--- I'm talking about her agenda. And it scares me.

Well said, Limetime2.

Ok, I won't post anymore on this topic. I just wanted to set the record straight about Pelosi being disagreed with because she's a strong woman.

Paula

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Posted : March 23, 2010 5:23 pm
chockman
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Great post Paula.

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Posted : March 23, 2010 5:28 pm
li2stx
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The entire Health Care situation will eventually come out in the wash one way or another. But the question I have that I've heard several times asked is when the right is asked what did they do for 8 years for health care when they had total control. The best answer has been health savings account. I don't know about all of you but I find it near impossible to estimate the amount I might need for the year in January and if I go over, too bad and if I estimate under, well then I give a gift of my $$$ back and I lose it. Not too good of a system either. Maybe before we tear apart something we should see if it works, there were some very good parts in that bill especially the part for pre-existing illness and closing the donut hole for seniors. I think I might just wait and see, it might not be the best but it is a start.

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Posted : March 23, 2010 7:25 pm
sheprd
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Yes, it is a start, a start to a total takeover of the healthcare system by big gov. Exactly how much does the gov have to control to be considered communist? Banks, major industries, healthcare and on and on... Lambs to slaughter.

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Posted : March 23, 2010 11:39 pm
STXBob
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The government also controls public education, public roads, public airports, public transit, military, police, and plenty else. I'll take too much government over too little. Too little leads to anarchy.

The health care system was broken for decades. The Obama administration had the will and the opportunity to reform it. If they hadn't pushed the issue, how and when else would it possibly have happened?

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Posted : March 24, 2010 11:28 am
Bassman
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For all you public option fans; What we have now IS the public option (no option). Why do you think Dennis Kusinich changed his vote to "yes". Obama took him up on Air Force One to explain that the feds will now dictate what coverage every policy will have , who will be covered , what will be charged, what will be paid, who will be treated, who will not be treated. The insurance companies will only do the paper work.
As Obama said on the campaign train to a woman concerned about her mother's treatment under "Obamacare" - no heart surgery, just give her a pill. Welcome to the Brave New World.

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Posted : March 24, 2010 12:05 pm
chockman
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Better living through chemicals ?

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Posted : March 24, 2010 1:14 pm
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