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dxphy
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March 13, 2015 7:57 pm  

Speeds are higher with VINGN yay!!

http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4210907036


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xXxRUDExXx
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March 13, 2015 8:27 pm  

Ping's kinda high...but I'd like some o' that!

What's the cost?


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quirion
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March 13, 2015 11:31 pm  

When can we get this residential wise on St. Croix?


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klpmtm
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March 13, 2015 11:56 pm  

What is VINGN?


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Novanut
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March 14, 2015 12:15 am  

Just tested and I received 1.49 down and .09 up. Is that a significant speed increase for BBVI? Don't think so…

BTW, I'm on the cheap ($50/mo) plan… :{


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dxphy
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March 14, 2015 11:58 am  

No this is my work site. Work at WAPA.


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dxphy
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March 14, 2015 8:10 pm  

Vingn
is virgin islands next generation now


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CruzanIron
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March 14, 2015 8:38 pm  

Vingn
is virgin islands next generation now

Virgin Islands Next Generation Network


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klpmtm
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March 15, 2015 5:09 am  

And locals can not purchase internet through them? Only businesses, like WAPA?


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Alana33
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March 15, 2015 5:56 am  

Hasn't resulted in lower costs for residential use nor increased speeds that I can tell.


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dxphy
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March 15, 2015 8:26 pm  

It did result in lower cost for government agencies. Hopefully soon residents will see the savings and increase in speeds.


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March 15, 2015 8:29 pm  

I don't see how it will result in lower costs. The providers lost all of the government revenue and they have to recoup it somehow. Just like gas stations, as long as they don't undercut their competitors, the lack of competition will keep prices as they are. The opportunity to lower private end users prices passed a long time ago.


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sunshinefun
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March 16, 2015 11:21 am  

VINGN really screwed the other ISP's good.


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sttanon
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March 17, 2015 8:29 pm  

And locals can not purchase internet through them? Only businesses, like WAPA?

VINGN is prohibited by its charter from selling directly to the public, they are however reselling bandwidth to Innovative, BBVI, Smartnet, and other startup ISPs that are beginning to come online which in turn are selling to the public. BBVI for instance is selling 25 meg connections for $199.00/month. There are location limitations at the moment but I know that there is a plan in the works that should help. Currently businesses are the only ones that ISPs are selling to. I know that STX based Orbitel has plans for the future to bring fiber access to residental but it isn't ready yet.


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Alana33
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March 17, 2015 8:32 pm  

That's very expensive! ($199.00)


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klpmtm
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March 18, 2015 7:01 am  

Thanks for the info!!


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vicanuck
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March 18, 2015 11:17 am  

I guess VINGN selling its services to government departments and its semi-autonomous agencies is not considered "selling to the public". Semantics.


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quirion
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March 18, 2015 2:06 pm  

And locals can not purchase internet through them? Only businesses, like WAPA?

VINGN is prohibited by its charter from selling directly to the public, they are however reselling bandwidth to Innovative, BBVI, Smartnet, and other startup ISPs that are beginning to come online which in turn are selling to the public. BBVI for instance is selling 25 meg connections for $199.00/month. There are location limitations at the moment but I know that there is a plan in the works that should help. Currently businesses are the only ones that ISPs are selling to. I know that STX based Orbitel has plans for the future to bring fiber access to residental but it isn't ready yet.

I don't see that on their web site for business.
SMALL BUSINESS PLATINUM

10Mbps download, 2Mbps upload - $299.95/month

Do you have a link?


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xXxRUDExXx
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March 18, 2015 2:58 pm  

I guess VINGN selling its services to government departments and its semi-autonomous agencies is not considered "selling to the public". Semantics.

To my knowledge, the various gov't. departments & agencies, while being connected by/through VINGN, actually purchase their internet services from the ISPs.


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sttanon
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March 18, 2015 10:12 pm  

That's very expensive! ($199.00)

Innovative is charging $399.00 for a 12 meg connection so 1/2 the price for twice the speed isn't expensive at all for here in a way.

Vicanuck, there is a big difference and not semantics. VINGN came about because of different programs when the economy took a dump in 2007-2008. The local government got roughly 90 million to create a updated high-speed net pipe. When it came about it was also supposed to be that govt agencies were going to get their internet access for free ( it has changed a lot so don't know if it is still that way).

I have been doing a lot of work with all of this as of late

Quirion, its not posted but it is there PM me and I can get you contact info...


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trainwreck82
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March 23, 2015 12:13 pm  

And locals can not purchase internet through them? Only businesses, like WAPA?

VINGN is prohibited by its charter from selling directly to the public, they are however reselling bandwidth to Innovative, BBVI, Smartnet, and other startup ISPs that are beginning to come online which in turn are selling to the public. BBVI for instance is selling 25 meg connections for $199.00/month. There are location limitations at the moment but I know that there is a plan in the works that should help. Currently businesses are the only ones that ISPs are selling to. I know that STX based Orbitel has plans for the future to bring fiber access to residental but it isn't ready yet.

I was contacted by VINGN Friday and asked to speak with a rep Tuesday about a 50mbps connection for $299/mo, and I'm definitely not an ISP, business downtown CA.


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ms411
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March 23, 2015 1:04 pm  

Has their federal oversight period passed? I think they are now allowed to take private clients.


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sttanon
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March 23, 2015 9:44 pm  

I was contacted by VINGN Friday and asked to speak with a rep Tuesday about a 50mbps connection for $299/mo, and I'm definitely not an ISP, business downtown CA.

Don't never have heard of VINGN selling to public and didn't the no direct sales to public clause had expiration date. It could be usual gov't BS doing stuff they aren't supposed to...


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trainwreck82
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March 24, 2015 2:43 pm  

I was contacted by VINGN Friday and asked to speak with a rep Tuesday about a 50mbps connection for $299/mo, and I'm definitely not an ISP, business downtown CA.

Don't never have heard of VINGN selling to public and didn't the no direct sales to public clause had expiration date. It could be usual gov't BS doing stuff they aren't supposed to...

Nope, it was an ISP. When I talked to their rep on the phone he said VINGN but they're another ISP reselling.


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sttanon
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March 25, 2015 4:08 pm  

I ran into the VP of VINGN at a jobsite today and he confirmed that they will never be able to sell directly to the public as it was in their creation charter that they could not as it would create unfair competition to the ISPs. I guess it was also a condition of getting the money from the federal government.


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