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ms411
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No, I am not confusing your boy Mapp with anybody, so don't try to confuse the people on this forum with your accusations.

I have said before I consider DeJongh history because he can't run again, so nothing I post here on out has anything to do with him.

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Posted : November 6, 2014 12:50 am
BajanBlood
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I think it's a shame that while this was a huge voter turn out, that only 53.79% of registered voters did vote. Where's the rest of them?

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The numbers they showed last night for 2012 (under 15% turnout) and 2010 (39.9% turnout) mean that this was actually a huge turn out.

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Posted : November 6, 2014 1:55 am
MissJustice
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Oh please. Where is he going to get the money to fund all these new hires and facilitate their salaries, health benefits, perks, bonuses and retirement/GERS benefits, who already has issues of their own with not enough money being paid in and not properly managed?

To answer your question, where will Mapp get the money for 1000new jobs?
1. Transfer the $12 million in overtime pay to policemen and hire more policemen. You end up
a. Providing more officers to help with crime
b. Give overworked police time to refresh
c. Free up money to hire 100 more police on each island
2. Take all the money being spent on retirees in education as substitute teachers, does not include new money
a. Pay new graduates who currently are not employed and will now pay into pension and pay taxes and buy homes
b. Pay locals instead of the foreign visa teachers who don't stay and who don't spend much here, thereby building a non fluctuating non turn over teacher base
c. Allow us to qualify for new grants by being accredited and having adequate staff money is currently allotted which we are not spending
3. Fill the nursing vacancies with permanent staff at all government hospitals clinics and schools
a. Permanent staff is cheaper than travelers
b. Having adequate nursing staff is a prerequisite to certification
c. Certification saves and earns you more money
4. Hire more revenue collectors for the estimated $300 million in outstanding tax debt. People like Chucky would never have bee able to get away with 19 years of unpaid taxes had we had sufficient competent tax officers
a. The increased projected revenue collection will result in less fiscal year deficit and pay for the revenue collectors' salaries.

Donna is a nice lady. But she doesn't have a plan.

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Posted : November 6, 2014 8:39 am
vicanuck
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But won't the police officers who are enjoying the extra overtime income and have gotten used to those wages be upset when that is taken away?

How will the GVI attract these new teachers with the fast food restaurant wages they pay the teachers? New graduates go the mainland where they pay better wages.

How can the GVI fill nursing vacancies at hospitals when the GVI can't afford to fund the hospitals now?

How is hiring new tax collectors going to increase revenue? Its like the police...no one wants to arrest their inlaws.

Just my thoughts....

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Posted : November 6, 2014 11:21 am
JohnnyU
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Not sure of the structure in the VI but you are neglecting the costs of benefits - Pension, medical, etc in your plan

Stateside its typically cheaper to pay the OT than it is to hire

YMMV

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Posted : November 6, 2014 11:55 am
Beeski
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MJ, if you really believe there is $175mil in annual savings ($100mil current deficit plus $75mil for 1000 new employees) in this proposal, I have some oceanfront property in Kansas I'd like to sell to you.

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Posted : November 6, 2014 12:04 pm
malibutexan07
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How is hiring new tax collectors going to increase revenue? Its like the police...no one wants to arrest their inlaws.

That's where non-residents come into play: hire non-residents as tax collectors (offer a bonus as the 'carrot'). =P

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Topic starter Posted : November 6, 2014 8:32 pm
MissJustice
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Thanks for the questions.
1. Substitute teachers get paid a higher hourly rate than teachers. That will account for the non salary benefits. It is $42,000 vs $32,000/ per year. So the cost is the same, but the total number of employed people is more which is better to expand the middle class, albeit lower middle class.
2. Yes a small amount of overtime is cheaper than new hires: usually. But when half the shifts are overtime, the lines don't intersect. One cop works the equivalent of 100 hours weekly. (40 hrs regular plus 40 hrs at time + 1/2. That could be two people working for 80 hours with benefits. So no new money there, but new bodies.
Besides we don't have a choice where police numbers are concerned. We are under a consent decree in part for the Shortage of staffing.
3. The nurses are also working overtime and with retirees. See points 1&2. And the hospital is under CMS consent decree, if you will. So they have to get more nurses. Foreign nurses send their money home or never stay and invest.

Mapp is clever in his plan to move the same money around to a thousand new bodies, while simultaneously fulfilling legal and federal mandates. Hence the 100 new jobs.
All the jobs require certification. Nome of them unclassified. None of them political.
Mapp is a financial genius.

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Posted : November 6, 2014 10:18 pm
OldTart
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Mapp is a financial genius.

All those years in government service working for the people and all of a sudden he's a "financial genius". Must have been torture hiding that wonderful light under one heck of a heavy bushel for so long.

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Posted : November 6, 2014 10:25 pm
MissJustice
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Mapp is a financial genius.

All those years in government service working for the people and all of a sudden he's a "financial genius". Must have been torture hiding that wonderful light under one heck of a heavy bushel for so long.

1. Being in government and being a financial genius is not mutually exclusive. He did not hide his light under a bushel and his genius is not sudden.
2. He was PFA director and left them with almost $3/4 billion dollars. It has since been squandered by the current administration.

Meanwhile, i notice no one on this blog seems to be giving reasons to vote for Donna. A nice lady, but not ready to be governor. And her running mate is one heart beat away from her. He is a total airhead.

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Posted : November 7, 2014 12:00 am
OldTart
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Methinks you really haven't been around too long if you believe Mapp is a financial genius and Ms Christensten is just, "a nice lady". And, by the way, this is a forum, not a blog.

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Posted : November 7, 2014 8:43 am
MissJustice
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You still seem unable to give even one reason to vote for Donna. Nuffield said.

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Posted : November 7, 2014 8:47 am
malibutexan07
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Results as of 9:29pm last night:

13th Report

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Topic starter Posted : November 7, 2014 9:10 am
OldTart
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You still seem unable to give even one reason to vote for Donna. Nuffield said.

I was neither asked for nor choose to offer my personal opinion. Who's "Nuffield"? The name is unfamiliar.

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Posted : November 7, 2014 9:15 am
IslandHops
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The only financial genius Mapp has ever shown was in negotiating his private consulting agreement.

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Posted : November 7, 2014 11:12 am
Alana33
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Too true.

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Posted : November 7, 2014 11:35 am
vicanuck
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It is $42,000 vs $32,000/ per year.

Teachers only get paid $32,000 a year in the VI? Shameful. You could make more than that as a beggar on the street in a major city.

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Posted : November 7, 2014 11:42 am
MissJustice
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And why should I vote for Christiansen?

Where will she get the money to give everyone a raise to $25,000.00 /year as is her plan?

While she simultaneously finds $2 billion to make the GERS solvent? How?

Lots of promises, but no plan. Please if someone know her plan kindly share it with us.

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Posted : November 9, 2014 4:09 am
ms411
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The only financial genius Mapp has ever shown was in negotiating his private consulting agreement.

What private consulting agreement?

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Posted : November 9, 2014 9:25 am
MissJustice
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What is Christiansen's plan?

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Posted : November 9, 2014 10:31 am
OldTart
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What is Christiansen's plan?

If you could spell her name properly you could likely find that info on her website. You're becoming quite practiced at deflecting questions by asking a question in response while ignoring others. A run for elected office in your future?

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Posted : November 9, 2014 10:41 am
Alana33
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How about this link regarding Mapp receiving $25k a month from
Innovative/ Jeffery Prosser.

http://stjohnsource.com/content/news/local-news/2003/01/16/3-say-icc-firm-sent-mapp-25k-month-trainee-0

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Posted : November 9, 2014 11:41 am
ms411
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Wasn't Mapp getting that money while he was Lt Gov? What happened to that case? He's always part of some drama.

How about this link regarding Mapp receiving $25k a month from
Innovative/ Jeffery Prosser.

http://stjohnsource.com/content/news/local-news/2003/01/16/3-say-icc-firm-sent-mapp-25k-month-trainee-0/blockquote >

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Posted : November 9, 2014 12:07 pm
OldTart
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Reading the article and the correction attached thereto answers the questions. The separate civil suit was likely settled out of court but you could always research that. Worms abound in huge piles where Mr Mapp is concerned. Where's Miss Justice with all the dirt on Ms Christensen? Oh, wait, there's nought to be found, right? How boring.

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Posted : November 9, 2014 12:22 pm
ms411
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I have researched but haven't found outcome and I don't remember what happened if anything.

So few stories are followed up after initial report. Sigh.

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Posted : November 9, 2014 12:36 pm
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